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Is there a 11-38 10 speed cassette available for a shimano set up, I'm running 1x10 on a 34T front ring but could just do with a 38T 1st gear at times, I don't want to go to a 32T on the front so I'm hoping there is on about.


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 6:14 pm
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11-34 with one of the smaller cogs removed and one of those ss 38t jobbies off eBay. Worked for me.


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 6:34 pm
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ss 38t jobbies off eBay

got a link?


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 6:57 pm
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Ya any link or info where its from?


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 7:46 pm
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KCNC do a 11-38 titanium one at around £300 ??????


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 7:49 pm
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How does this cog work? Is the smallest sprocket not required to do up the locknut on a cassette?


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 8:41 pm
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Don't forget about your chain length though.......


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 8:43 pm
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Installation requires the removal of [b]one of the smaller ( higher gear ) cogs[/b]. This can result in a minor ratio gap due to a larger than normal tooth differential. [b]This can be avoided easily by replacing your first position cog with a 13 or 14t cog. I have both available in another listing[/b].


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 8:43 pm
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Ah, so you either:

1. Keep the 11T, and remove 2nd or 3rd sprocket, leaving a ratio gap.

Or

2. Buy his 13T to go in the outer position instead of the original 11T


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 8:48 pm
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but if you remove the 11t, and swap for a 13, you may as well just drop to a 32t on the front!

Its interesting though, I can't figure out why no-one offers a reasonably light 11-38 or 11-40 cassette...


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 8:53 pm
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Would it be possible to fit a 38t cog with a 9 speed cassette?


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 8:57 pm
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I run a 33t chainring on my 1x10. It's e13 I think.


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 9:08 pm
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Interesting....
I'm hoping shimano do something this year as far as rear cassettes go!


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 11:28 pm
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Trouble is that a 13-38 cassette is a lot narrower than 11-36, totally pointless!


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 11:39 pm
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£379!!! That's outrages

http://clee-cycles.co.uk/esite/grp/drivetrain_cassettes-10_spd/products


 
Posted : 18/08/2013 11:45 pm
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Trouble is that a 13-38 cassette is a lot narrower than 11-36, totally pointless!

Maybe for racers but not your average weekend biffers 🙂


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 12:04 am
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And let's face it, if you need a 38 you probably are a weekend biffer 😉


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 12:51 am
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Maybe for racers but not your average weekend biffers

Except njee's point is that the weekend biffers would be better off with 11-36 and a smaller chainring.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 2:01 am
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Brilliant 🙂


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 2:58 am
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I do love this obsession with maintaining a high top gear that in reality probably doesn't get used much and the wondering why you (not op specifically) struggle on hills.

Let alone the need to have a 1 x system and not have enough gears to ride everywhere, fashion in its most perverse form.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 6:39 am
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[quote=steve_b77 ]I do love this obsession with maintaining a high top gear that in reality probably doesn't get used much and the wondering why you (not op specifically) struggle on hills.
Let alone the need to have a 1 x system and not have enough gears to ride everywhere, fashion in its most perverse form.

I also wonder why people think that everyone is like them and pedals the same and has the same style of riding 🙂

I end up riding 32t bikes a few times and it just doesn't work with how I ride and I end up spinning out all the time on singletrack. I love being able to put in 1 pedal stroke and get somewhere with it exactly when I need it (as there is only time for 1)

Going 1x has some great advantages of losing mechs, shifters and being able to run a proper guide for much increases chain retention. People are getting there with the big range cassettes and if the 1x11 comes down to the everyday level I reckon it will be making a big inroad into the market.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 6:45 am
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Who like who?

Not enough gears on your bike for how you ride is just plain daft, sticking with it is even worse just so you can loose a front mech and a couple of 100g's of an overall weight in the region of 80-90kg for your 'average' guy on a 'normal' to here bike. It's a fashion led compromise


 
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I think there are a lot of people who have actually tried it who would disagree with you. All gearing is a compromise. If it works for your own application then great. All depends where you ride, what you ride and how you ride. I find 10 gears is plenty for me, others don't.


 
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It's a fashion led compromise
similar opinion - though looking at swopping my SS to 1 x 10 a compromise that will work well for me

think it is a little bit comparable with road bike enthusiasm for doubles - recent hilly challenge event and I passed (but only just!)quite a lot of riders pushing their bikes on one steep hill - so my triple may look shit but beats pushing - I know good riders could ride it easily on a compact but I bet those punters weren't told that in the bike shop


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 7:19 am
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For me 10 is enough for the places I ride,
I don't have to walk up hills and I don't get left behind on the flat

I have a top chain guide and clutch mech so chain does not fall off
Nothing to do with fashion just about a bike that works.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 7:55 am
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Similarly I built a 1x10 earlier this year : 32 chainring and a 11:36 cassette. Riding in Malvern I just have to accept that I'll spin out all over the place (flats and downhill) and as a result still ride my old 3x9 just as much - particularly for Strava chasing 😕

... Plus side of the 1x10 is that I've abandoned the need to use the granny ring on the 3x9 !!


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 8:57 am
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I think there are a lot of people who have actually tried it who would disagree with you. All gearing is a compromise. If it works for your own application then great. All depends where you ride, what you ride and how you ride. I find 10 gears is plenty for me, others don't.

I agree, but in the case of the OP he doesn't have a sufficient spread of gears with a 'normal' 1 x set up.

I've ran 1x9 (32t front & 12-36 rear on a 29'er) on my ht and it was fine for me for everything I rode on it inc t'peaks and welsh Wales. So I'm not a naysayer. It's just people seem to become obsessed with running setups that are too much of a compromise to their riding style / ability / fitness levels.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 9:52 am
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If it works for your own application then great.

This thread is about it not working. The solution would seen to be more chain rings. I speculate as to how much more that would way way as a 38 steel rear sprocket will way more than another chain ring...


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 1:28 pm
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11-34 with one of the smaller cogs removed and one of those ss 38t jobbies off eBay. Worked for me.

njee20 is right, this is a totally retarded idea.

11-36 cassette is a range of 327%.
13-38 cassete is a range of 292%.

So instead of buying a smaller chainring, you spent MORE money on some snakeoil cassette BS, and ended up with LESS range.

Did you fail maths at school?


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 1:58 pm
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If I do this, I will keep the 11T, gain a 38T, and accept a gap in the 13-15T range.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 2:10 pm
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I did this amazing thing a while back. I got rid of all my gears bar one.

No mechs, no shifters, no noise.

I do have a few spinning out problems and can't get up some climbs - anyone any ideas how to get round this?


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 2:27 pm
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I said 'with one of the smaller cogs removed', not 'with the smallest cog removed'. I thunk peoplz cud wrk rest fur tem selvz.


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 2:28 pm
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Fit a Rolhoff


 
Posted : 19/08/2013 2:28 pm