[Closed] 100% Dangerous Idiots

hora - Member

miketually so how does that work in the Peaks then?

the people who go walking in the peaks are either friendly (if you go far enough) or unfriendly (if you stay near the car parks)

if you meet unfriendly people in the peaks, they tend to be the type of person who would complain anyway

whatever your views of riding on footpaths what if a kid stepped/fell on it

tossers

I don't think anyone was implying that. Calm down.

the people who go walking in the peaks are either friendly (if you go far enough) or unfriendly (if you stay near the car parks)

Sounds like the people in the Peak are the same as people in the Lakes, Dales, etc.

@Hora - I read that as the tosser being the person who put down the nailed planks. Do keep up, old chap

@mike - yes essentially, we do get a few more townies who claim to "country people" but really mean "I want to escape the town and the countryside should be preserved as I want it"

Well it certainly seems that judging by the responses people don't want to follow any rules that don't suit them. As long as what YOU are doing is right in YOUR mind then I suppose it's ok. Why is following the rules so bad?

First know your rules. And in this case the rule is that, in the absence of a right of way, you are liable to the landowner for any damage you cause. If there's a right of way, the local authority takes on the liability for damage to the path itself. I think it's only case law that a bicycle isn't a 'reasonable accompaniment' to a person where the right of way does not extend to horses etc. But in general, people only conform to rules where it suits them, particularly if they can get away with it

Because they are retarded?

there may in fact be other reasons...

I need hardly add that the land in question belongs to United Utilities, so whoever is placing the mantraps is suffering from Munchausen's landlord by proxy syndrome.

Ban over then Si?. :p

(Note to self; be careful around SFB, hes done 'bird).

The guy leaving man traps is an idiot for sure.

The bigger debate is interesting - no one originally defined a route as bridleway or path to secure walkers safety from bikes or anything like it. At the time biking wasn't even a thought. It was pretty arbitrary, and we all know of footpaths that should be bridleways.

We share bridleways, on the understanding we show consideration for other users which is fair enough.

It's stoopid we can't use footpaths, so long as if we do so we show same consideration as on bridleways. These laws need challenging, how come Scotland did it?

But doesn't matter whether we ride bridleways or footpaths, if we are perceived to be shredding at high speed especially in large numbers in areas heavily used by other trail users, this will be used to illustrate a trend of turning public rights of way into race tracks, putting other users at risk and causing erosion etc. Doesn't matter what the facts are, the perceptions will be enough to damage our cause.

If we want to do this sort of riding, we need to choose our times and locations carefully, avoiding other trail users like good little boys and girls, or we might see biking pushed into trail centres and time bans like on Snowdon.

Maybe it's time to organise and challenge access rights properly?

It's stoopid we can't use footpaths, so long as if we do so we show same consideration as on bridleways. These laws need challenging, how come Scotland did it?

There never was a separation between footpaths / bridleways / RUPPs, BOATS in Scotland. Its just a path.

Ban over then Si?. :p

so it seems, and sooner than I'd thought 🙂

What did you do this time sfb?

What did you do this time sfb?

apparently, my enquiries into the [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/on-the-front-page-bye-bye-bert/page/2 ]beliefs of animals and their admission to heaven[/url] were deemed disrespectful...

YGM not risking it on forum

YGM not risking it on forum

the unwritten rule: "Don't piss off the staff" ?

MilitantGraham - Member
I've been riding the footpath along the River Severn near where I live for almost that long. How do I go about getting it upgraded to a Bridleway ?