In this episode of the Singletrack Podcast we have a Mrs Merton-style ‘heated debate’ about eeb numbers.

Benji and Mark layout the Singletrack Magazine editorial team’s concerns around peak power for the latest wave of eMTB motors and firmwares. We (well, Benji) also bangs on (and on) about how Trail Bikes should just get in the sea.
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You can listen to the whole 42 minute thang below…

A few comments …..
Benji sounds muffled, got a cold? bad mic setup?
50+% of human communication is about body language/facial expression, a lot more work I would assume but a video podcast is much better.
If you are talking numbers have them in front of you, quite a few “… I thinks it’s this … " type comments.
If you are are having to lift a heavy e-bike, actually any bike, over a gate on a trail its probably a footpath and you you shouldn’t be riding it.
EMBN have covered all aspects of the Amflow on their website with videos and real world tests, ok they are partly sponsored by Amflow, but given my experience of them covering other bikes/brands/MTB related issues, I trust what they say.
Trail Bikes should just get in the sea. – what does that even mean??
A few comments …..
Benji sounds muffled, got a cold? bad mic setup?
Agreed. I’ve come to assume that any STW of I listen to will be a bit like earwigging two blokes chatting in a pub.
50+% of human communication is about body language/facial expression, a lot more work I would assume but a video podcast is much better.
I can’t watch a pod whilst doing something less interesting. Ride Companion do some nice shorts, but watching some guys sit about talking bikes for over an hour? No thanks.
If you are talking numbers have them in front of you, quite a few “… I thinks it’s this … ” type comments.
Agreed.
If you are are having to lift a heavy e-bike, actually any bike, over a gate on a trail its probably a footpath and you you shouldn’t be riding it.
Yeah but….
EMBN have covered all aspects of the Amflow on their website with videos and real world tests, ok they are partly sponsored by Amflow, but given my experience of them covering other bikes/brands/MTB related issues, I trust what they say.
How could you possibly trust, in isolation, a review of a product in sponsored content?
Trail Bikes should just get in the sea. – what does that even mean??
Benji is wrong. The middle ground is where it’s at, Tony Blair just said as much. Oh. Hang on…
Fair play to you for listening to it, but honestly it sounds like you’re not the target market – you don’t understand audio as a medium, you seem unfamiliar with the concept of podcasts (2 men in a shed wittering, normally), you don’t understand trail as a type of bike, you’re offended by gates on rides and you prefer content sponsored by Amflow for opinions of Amflow.
You only riding in England @gazzab1955?
Plenty places that aren’t footpaths that need a hoik over a gate…
My main ebike purchasing criterion was whether I could comfortably lift it over a fence. Having lived with an SL bike for nigh on 2 years now, that would still be the major thing for me (including hike a bike). I’m hoping solid state batteries cause a step change (reduction) in ebike weight to make lifting and hike a bike doable with decent range.
One of my ebikes is 28kg and I’ve not encounterd an obstacle I’ve struggled too much with (apart from the stile at the bottom of Black Rocks Gully down to the canal – locals will know and the farmer is a wee scamp who dislikes bikes!) – get stronger you bunch of wimps 😉
Anyway, live in the Derbyshire Dales and you’re riding footpaths, or you’re missing a lot/most of the good stuff. Just be courteous and considerate is my mantra
Kudos to you, my Privateer is 26.3kg and I endlessly bitch about its weight. Next ebike will be at least a couple of kg lighter, for handling reasons more than stiles and gates.
I’m fine with the EP801 power, happy to have more but probably won’t use it
I’ll try to listen to the podcast when it gets onto apple
I don’t really care what singletrack.com think about anything
Strange comment
Unless you are actually referring to singletrack.com which is a capital markets website?