Singletrack World Issue 145: The Science Of Waterproofing

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Fresh from a wet weather ride where he appeared to be wetter on the inside than the outside, Sanny sets off to find out what ‘waterproof clothing’ actually means and…

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By day, Sanny plies his trade as a Chartered Accountant and Non-Executive Director. By night, however, give him a map and the merest whisper of a trail "that might go" and he'll be off faster than a rat up a drainpipe on some damn fool mission to discover new places to ride. Rarely without his trusty Nikon D5600, he likes nothing better than being in the big mountains, an inappropriately heavy bike on his back, taking pics and soaking up the scenery. He also likes to ride his bike there too although rumours that he is currently working on his next book, "Walks with my bike", are untrue (mostly). Fat biking, gravel riding, bikepacking, road biking, e biking, big mountain adventures - as long as two wheels are involved, you'll find him with a grin on his face as he dives off the side of a mountain, down a narrow lane or into deep undergrowth in search of hidden trails and new adventures. His favourite food is ham and mushroom pizza and he is on a mission to ride all of the Munros, mostly as it allows him to indulge in eating more pizza. He has no five year plan, is a big fan of the writing of Charlie Connelly and reckons that Kermode and Mayo's Film Review Podcast is quite possibly the finest bit of broadcasting around.

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  • BadlyWiredDog
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    The first elephant in the room here is that regardless of what fabric you use and how well cut and designed the jacket is, it will still have a bloody great upwards-facing hole which your head goes through and in anything resembling heavy rain, water will run down it. Particularly if you don’t have a hood, but even then to an extent.

    The other elephant is the D in DWR, as pretty much all durable water repellent treatments turn out to be not very durable at all and once they stop working – usually a matter of hours or less – the outer face of the fabric soaks up water and drastically reduces moisture vapour transfer (aka breathability) from the inside of the garment outwards and you soak in your own sweat.

    The two exceptions I’m aware of are Columbia’s OutDry Extreme and Gore’s ShakeDry, which do away with face fabrics altogether and have the proofing later on the outside, hence the gimpy, rubbery appearance of both fabrics. They don’t use a DWR and consequently they don’t wet out.

    Oddly enough, manufacturers don’t really want to talk about either, fwiw, wearing a buff around your nexk reduces the problem with the hole for your head, but the relative uselessness of DWR treatments renders a lot of the breathable technology spiel semi-irrelevant ime.

    Posted 1 year ago
    prettygreenparrot
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    Not sure it was addressed directly but one question is: waterproof for how long?

    Maybe it’s strongly related to the ‘D’WR treatment as @badlywireddog describes. As was said ‘the perfect waterproof coat doesn’t exist’. I suppose that means multiple jackets with all the choice and cost problems that introduces but with small compromises or a general compromise. I favour the latter. In most cases in England and Wales being a bit wet and cold is only going to be uncomfortable for a short time – it won’t hurt you.

    ‘Regular washing’ right, every gore-tex coat we’ve had in this house has survived a handful of washes before taping and seams started falling apart. Unless they’re deeply grimy or completely wetting out our jackets now get a scrub under the shower and a spin in the drier.

    The holes – oh yes! And the temperature difference. At night in a steamy, heavy Florida storm our coats lasted about 5 minutes before we were sodden. …should’ve taken an umbrella.

    Posted 1 year ago
    butcher
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    … it will still have a bloody great upwards-facing hole which your head goes through and in anything resembling heavy rain, water will run down it.

    If you plan on swimming in it maybe. I’ve been out in all kinds of weather over the years, in various jackets, and I can’t say the hole in the top has been the problem with any of them.

    This happens with shoes, but only where there’s lots of standing water and the wheels direct a constant jet of water just above that hole. Generally, even a heavy deluge of rain coming from above isn’t enough to penetrate those parts significantly in my experience.

    Posted 1 year ago
    BadlyWiredDog
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    If you plan on swimming in it maybe. I’ve been out in all kinds of weather over the years, in various jackets, and I can’t say the hole in the top has been the problem with any of them.

    In my experience, there’s a point where rain is heavy enough to simply run down your neck. Some of the time, from drizzle through to moderate showers, it’s not an issue, but in heavy rain, I’ve found that it is.

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