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  • Zac Goldsmith
  • kimbers
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    So will he be retiring from politics in disgrace?

    (Lynton Crosby’s stock got to have fallen too? )

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    Lynton Crosby was knighted today…

    deadlydarcy
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    It’s funny that, I was thinking how our rabid right-wing shills had been very quiet about London today. 😆

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Goldschmidt eh?

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    Seems Londoners don’t want a racist old Etonian as their mayor.

    Unless it’s got funny hair.

    Northwind
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    You’re allowed to be racist, just don’t mention Hitler.

    Garry_Lager
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    Seemed like a bit of a sacrificial lamb, tbh – he had no chance. Completely inept political performer, so he was never electable to a song-and-dance role like Mayor of London.

    jimdubleyou
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    Lots of the party turning on the campaign now it’s over – and rightly so.

    chewkw
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    How much does a London mayor earn?

    In other part of the world it is an opportunity to get kickbacks …

    Who are going to be awarded projects? Own clique?

    Loads of money!

    😛

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    just don’t mention Hitler.

    From Ed Morrish;

    “Your name?”
    “Ken Livingstone”
    “Your specialist subject?”
    “Not bringing up Hitler”
    “You have sixty seconds and your time starts n-“
    “Hitler”

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Garry_Lager – Member
    Seemed like a bit of a sacrificial lamb, tbh – he had no chance.

    he was the bookies fave b4 xmas

    ernie_lynch
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    How much does a London mayor earn?

    Not enough according to Boris Johnson.

    Johnson had to top up his paltry £143,911 mayoral salary to half a million quid by doing a couple of other jobs.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnson-tax-return_uk_570bcf9ce4b07a35187c6733

    Northwind
    Full Member

    jimdubleyou – Member

    Lots of the party turning on the campaign now it’s over – and rightly so

    Yup. Victory is never dishonourable, right?

    chakaping
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    I’m sure the Tories were desperate to keep control of London, so this result is a terrible shame.

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    Official result delayed until midnight due to possible ‘serious counting error’.

    Ah.

    Garry_Lager
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    he was the bookies fave b4 xmas

    That’s staggering, tbh, but has to be just down to the race not really getting going at that point – once people could run the rule over the two of them then Khan became an overwhelming favourite (think betfair had him over 90% on polling day).
    These elections always feel closer than they are, as the stakes are high – a single mis-step can blow up a campaign. But in hindsight, when things calm down a bit, you can see that it was a mismatch.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    ernie_lynch – Member

    How much does a London mayor earn?

    Not enough according to Boris Johnson.

    Johnson had to top up his paltry £143,911 mayoral salary to half a million quid by doing a couple of other jobs.[/quote]

    Crikey, this looks like a money spinning job.

    The question is which one of them mayor (past and present) can milk the job/system so well to retire handsomely for several generations … without being caught.

    Also let see which one is dumber to be caught while milking the system.

    😛

    ernie_lynch
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    it was a mismatch.

    Perhaps, but the problem for the Tories was that they had to choose a mayoral candidate who was perceived to be independent of a Tory government. In that respect Zac Goldsmith was the ideal candidate.

    Remember Boris Johnson relied heavily on portraying himself as an independently minded Tory. And before him Ken Livingstone was seen as very independent of the then Labour government.

    What appears to have really screwed Zac Goldsmith is that the Tories completely failed to learn the lesson that the UKIP Deputy Chairman learnt exactly 2 years ago – when asked why UKIP had done so badly in London, compared to the rest of England, she explained that it was because London is “educated, cultured and young”.

    Don’t try to scare Londoners with bollox about scary Muslims. I try to remember that 40% (iirc) of Londoners were born overseas.

    chewkw
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    Don’t try to scare Londoners with bollox about scary Muslims. I try to remember that 40% (iirc) of Londoners were born overseas.

    The litmus test is simple once his term is over try to get another Muslim candidate to stand for the position (assuming no other Muslim candidate about), then see if that person gets the job.

    You should have a clearer picture then …

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    You should have a clearer picture then …

    Thank you – I’ll bear that in mind.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    ernie_lynch – Member

    You should have a clearer picture then …

    Thank you – I’ll bear that in mind. [/quote]
    Assuming everything is constant … 😛

    eddie11
    Free Member

    now zac hold this pint and people will think your an everyman. What?!! not like that! oh shit 😆

    kimbers
    Full Member

    wait it gets better, the sun had him in a kebab shop

    and working as a postie last week

    ctk
    Free Member

    Wow that pint picture! Yuck

    mefty
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    He is my MP and has been very successful locally. I think he is a good MP as do many of his constituents, he has turned the seat into one of the highest majorities from a LibDem marginal in one term, but he is not a great campaigner. He really knows his constituency and is always well informed.

    Sadly he allowed his campaign to be dominated by his attacks on Khan’s past associations because he didn’t really manage to cut through with any positive messages. There just wasn’t the attention to detail you need in a high profile campaign and there is no doubt Khan fought a better one. I think London is slightly Labour naturally, but it was still winnable.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Exactly mefty, in the most prosperous borough in the country his good breeding, tax avoidance expertise and airport nimbyism stands him in good stead, across the rest of london he was forced to resort to some fairly desperate borderline racist smear tactics, even I thought he was better than that.

    It just shows that money can buy you the best education in the world but you can still be as thick as a post.

    ernie_lynch
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    I think London is slightly Labour naturally, but it was still winnable.

    London is more than “slightly Labour”, which is precisely why it has historically provided recurring headaches for Tory governments.

    Fed up with consistently losing elections in London a Tory government decided in the 1980s to disband the LCC and replace it the GLC, which would include Tory-friendly leafy suburbs such as your own Richmond Park.

    Yet despite this little creative gerrymandering by the Tories Labour still annoyingly won GLC elections. So the Tories simply put an end to it in the 1980s by abolishing London-wide elections altogether, making London the only major capital city in the world without a unitary authority.

    jimdubleyou
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    Richmond is not the most prosperous borough in the country. That’s about 3 miles away in Kensington…

    I think his lack of a clear personality was always going to struggle in a predominantly Labour city.

    It will be interesting to see how Khan gets on – Livingston did some good work but was tarnished by cronyism. BoJo has been broadly successful in pushing forward through a recession. I suspect Khan wil turn out to be passable too.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Kensington is the richest, with longest life expectancy of any city borough

    But (according to some PR bollox I read once) for

    The UK’s most prosperous areas – For health, wealth, education and success, head to Richmond upon Thames

    http://www.directlinegroup.com/media/news/brand/2014/10-03-2014.aspx

    deadlydarcy
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    I love Bollywood. So does Zac.

    mefty
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    As Jimw says Richmond not the most prosperous just the most highly educated.

    ernie_lynch
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    I’m fairly sure no one has claimed that Richmond is “the most prosperous borough in the country”.

    I did however suggest that Richmond Park is a Tory-friendly leafy suburb.

    Would you agree?

    mefty
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    London is more than “slightly Labour”, which is precisely why it has historically provided recurring headaches for Tory governments.

    I chose my words quite carefully as when we discussed the relative prospects, you didn’t think Labour had a significant advantage. The Tories will need another Boris to win again and Zac, for all his qualities, doesn’t have Boris’s campaigning abilities.

    bails
    Full Member

    he has turned the seat into one of the highest majorities from a LibDem marginal in one term,

    And all while the lib dems were doing so well elsewhere…

    mefty
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    I did however suggest that Richmond Park is a Tory-friendly leafy suburb.

    It is now, strange to think that Jenny Tonge was once MP here.

    ernie_lynch
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    I chose my words quite carefully

    Well I choose my words very carefully.

    mefty
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    And all while the lib dems were doing so well elsewhere…

    His swing was large even in that context.

    ernie_lynch
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    It is now, strange to think that Jenny Tonge was once MP here.

    Read my post again. I was referring to the situation in 1965 when the GLC was formed.

    mefty
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    Well I choose my words very carefully.

    I appreciate you took a historic perspective.

    mefty
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    Sorry there is some crossing of posts and I was replying to others as well which has confused the picture.

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