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  • Wood burning in cities (possible me vs the man content)
  • camo16
    Free Member

    Howdy, evening STWers.

    So, this is the time of year when I gawp at your wood through envious fingers.

    Been thinking about getting a wood burner… But I’m living in Liverpool terraces and no-one else has smoke coming out of their chimneys.

    Is there any legislation in place to stop me using a wood fire in the inner (ish) city? Will the man fine my tight butt?

    Thoughts?

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    Clean air act.

    TheBrick
    Free Member

    clean air act 1956. It just means you need a burner that reaches some sort of level of clean combustion.

    camo16
    Free Member

    Ta, so this clean air act only applies to cities?

    Do log burners comply with said red tapeage?

    samuri
    Free Member

    There’s a load of stoves that don’t produce smoke which you’re allowed to use in the city.

    google for cleanburning stoves

    Stoner
    Free Member

    You may want to read this, written by a friend of mine.

    Where there’s smoke…

    chorlton
    Free Member

    You’ll need a DEFRA approved wood burner most likely. Unless you want to burn smokeless fuels. About to get and fit one myself.

    samuri
    Free Member

    And liverpool say this on their website

    ” SMOKE CONTROL AREAS
    The Clean Air Act 1993 allows Councils to establish smoke control areas which are aimed at improving air quality by burning authorised smokeless fuels, and where the emission of smoke from chimneys is prohibited.

    Coal and wood are not authorised smokeless fuels and therefore they can only be burnt in a smoke controlled area if they are used with an exempt heating appliance. Such appliances burn off or ‘eat’ the smoke produced by the fuel. For further information on this subject please contact your local environmental health service.”

    camo16
    Free Member

    Good article that, Stoner

    It’s a really appealing idea, plus I’d get to wave my Willy at eon

    Costings next.

    Ta

    Edit… Damn regulations. I blame Councillor Low Life Joe Anderson

    Trekster
    Full Member

    As an asthma sufferer I hate this time of year and all those people who have installed or opened up old fire burning devices!!!

    I am old enough to remember the “act” coming in and areas of town being deemed smokeless zones. Young people however are not aware of the “act” and are blundering ahead and installing “burners” or re-establishing old fire places 🙄

    camo16
    Free Member

    So I have no choice, but to stick with GCH or move to somewhere more tolerant of the smouldering log?

    Is there any way I can avoid being a peon of E.ON?

    gravity-slave
    Free Member

    You can use these in a smokeless area
    http://www.cleanburn-stoves.co.uk

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Solar panels, solar hot water, wind turbines, switch to another provider…

    Burning stuff in built up areas is a bad idea, in the end wood fires are not that clever if you have to buy the wood.

    Marin
    Free Member

    That’s not the scouse way camo. Have got a mate near Wavertree High Street with one and also one up near Hope Uni who found his burner in a skip.They’ve had no problem for a few years. Would get one fitted myself but have no chimney alas. Few areas near town there is wood galore avalaible that’s well dried and legal.

    camo16
    Free Member

    Fascinating, Marin! I like that! 😀

    Marin
    Free Member

    They only use them 1 or 2 nights a week and still rely on central heating mainly. More of a romantic night with the Mrs. You don’t work for the council do you? 😯

    5thElefant
    Free Member

    Burning stuff in built up areas is a bad idea, in the end wood fires are not that clever if you have to buy the wood.

    ^This. Unless you have access to free wood (or the time and inclination to track down nearly free wood) you’ll find a log burner is an expensive option.

    camo16
    Free Member

    No, I don’t work for the council, Marin!

    soops
    Free Member

    These are cracking stoves. Get the solo model though.

    http://www.dunsleyheat.co.uk/highlander5ENVIROmultifuelstove.html

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    We’ve got a Stovax stockton which is OK for smokeless zones. Nice little burner. The widget that makes it suitable for smokeless is just something that stops you shutting it down too much. Got it signed off, took it out. Sorted.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    smooooth with a capital SMOOOO martin.

    wont someone think of the children 😉

    globalti
    Free Member

    The Pureheat we use has “Approved for smokeless areas” written on the bags – that’s enough for us.

    camo16
    Free Member

    Soops, that’s what I’m talking about

    Hubba hubba

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    TBH, the widget offered the worst of all worlds – you could still shut it down enough for it to burn inefficiently, but not enough to actually damp it down so I could pop to the shops.

    soobalias
    Free Member

    edit.

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