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1. Brunk - Member

   Thanks for all the input - I genuinely wasn't sure what the best course of action was but you've given me something to think about.

   I guess tt depends on the nature of the trail and the amount of traffic it gets and some will suffer more than others during the winter.
   I also have to admit to being one of those all winter types sloshing around Leigh Woods in the pouring rain a few years back. Looking back the trails did get worse as that winter progressed but it's always someone elses fault isn't it? A single rider may not create much damage on one ride but if everyone's at it :-).......

   I think I may stick to the more resiliant sections in future and get to Cymcarn at the weekends.

   (May get involved with some trail repair too)

   Posted 1 year ago #
2. Junkyard - Member

   trail centres have evolved and taken the main hub of riders onto them

   
   Yes no one rides natural anywhere the lakes , the peaks are empty of MTB .
   

   and a choice that singularly makes no difference whatsoever to the trail.
   

   
   A bit like me saying well everyone else steals from work so it wont make any difference if I dont. Personal responsibility
   

   If its open, I'll ride it, and I aint going to lose any sleep about it

   
   we know itr is why the nanny state has to prevent people you cant do it yourself as you just dont care

   Posted 1 year ago #
3. crouch_potato - Member

   I don't want to get into the rights and wrongs of what other people do when I don't know where people are talking about (although I tend to agree with Junkyard, epicyclo et al), but here's my 2p.

   Most of my riding is in SSSIs and pretty sensitive to damage in wet conditions. If I want to ride the best tracks as they are (miles of gently twisty <20cm wide singletrack) it doesn't make much sense to ride the tracks in such a way as to contribute to their erosion through riding them when they're waterlogged, the effects of which increasingly results in their over-zealous repair. It's hardly rocket science to plan routes according to local conditions, walk sections if riding them will be worse than walking and so on. Unfortunately, that kind of principle seems to be beyond some people (IME, and on this forum). Having said that, if I lived elsewhere, the issue would be significantly different- plenty of routes are pretty much “all weather”, user impact is less significant even if tracks have greater use and so on. Again, it's not that difficult to make reasonable judgement based on experience and the context.

   Posted 1 year ago #
4. anotherdeadhero - Member

   A) Bonty Mud X

   B) http://www.bristoltrailsgroup.com/events/158-50-acre-trail-day*

   *I'm ashamed to say I've not been out fixing myself all year. I have however, also been too lazy to do any riding either.

   Posted 1 year ago #
5. BoardinBob - Member

   What I don't appreciate is self appointed MTB custodians

   You're going to have a field day on here then...

   Posted 1 year ago #
6. TandemJeremy - Member

   Ax3M4n - Member

   What I don't appreciate is self appointed MTB custodians, in an ever invasive Nanny State trying to tell me when, where and how I can't ride.

   The same is arguably true of other pastimes, where civilized, well behaved, practitioning Joe Public is put upon by apparent do-gooders, with no discernable benefit other than to befuddle and deject a hitherto enjoyable hobby.

   Well you ar3e going to be happy when there is no singletack left for you to ride. I have never heard such a load of arse in all my puff. Attemping to justify your selfish actions. Screw you jack.

   You can bury your head in the sand all you like but the actions of MTBers are eroding trails away - anyone with half an eye and half a brain can see this

   How about some social responsibility and attempt to minimise the damage you do

   Posted 1 year ago #
7. Ax3M4n - Member

   @TandemJeremy

   Speak to the hand dude.....

   Posted 1 year ago #
8. TandemJeremy - Member

   Clearly have to as you have no brain nor conscience to speak to.

   Posted 1 year ago #
9. Mr Agreeable - Member

   Should I be avoiding my local trails during the winter months as I may end up contributing to a general trashing of my favourite bits? Stick to the relatively weatherproof Trail Centres untill Spring? Or carry on regardless through the mud?
   

   Trail fixer here. No problem at all with people riding maintained trails like Ashton Court in winter, and I recognise that not everyone has the time to come out and lend a hand - as long as some do!

   Riding in the wet is ace, you can't beat a bit of drifty skiddy fun at speeds where a fall or a mistake is much less likely to end badly. However it does change trails over time - not necessarily for the worse, but sometimes it results in a soggy mess which then gets widened by people going round it, or a new trail gets made a few feet to the side, doubling the amount of erosion. But the amount of trails that get really shagged by bikes going over them is pretty small in the grand scheme of things.

   Posted 1 year ago #
10. Mr Agreeable - Member

    This also seems like a good time to plug our next trail day, for any Bristol types:

    http://www.bristoltrailsgroup.com/events/158-50-acre-trail-day

    Posted 1 year ago #
11. Junkyard - Member

    Ax3M4n so you object to the nanny state preventing you but you cannot engage in a reasonable debate and your attiude is f@ck you I wont do as you tell me etc
    People like you are the reason we have a nanny state and regulations not people who can excercise freedom and responsibilty at the same time.

    Posted 1 year ago #
12. epicyclo - Member

    Junkyard - Member
    ...people who can excercise freedom and responsibilty at the same time.

    That sums it up nicely.

    Ride it and repair it when you see it needs it.

    You, not the next person.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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