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1. hora - Member

   100% double-glazed
   30c combi-boiler with all recent radiators
   No drafts
   Front (double-entrance/porch) has a draft seal all round and double-glazed.
   Rear room, hallway, stairs and landing are wooden-floored but no gaps.
   The living room- v.thick underlay and thick carpet yet its the coldest room.
   The loft is insulated (checked)
   The walls are pre 1930 brick and we've been told cavity wall insulation isn't possible.

   Warm if you keep heating on however literally as soon as it goes off the house is freezing which says to me the house is very inefficient and shouldn't lose heat that quickly. Really scratching my head here.

   Anything I can do?!!!

   Posted 5 months ago #
2. globalti - Member

   Run the heating for longer so as to warm the actual structure inside the house. There are many tons of interior walls, fittings and furniture and it takes several days for all of this mass to warm up. If you keep turning off the heating you don't give it a chance.

   Posted 5 months ago #
3. aleigh - Member

   Time to get your thermals out hora

   *wolf whistles at hora*

   Posted 5 months ago #
4. chiefgrooveguru - Member

   Also is it at all damp? Humid air feels colder than equally cold dry air.

   Posted 5 months ago #
5. jota180 - Member

   Use heavy curtains and make sure you close them all when it.s dark

   Posted 5 months ago #
6. lowey - Member

   Haunted.

   Posted 5 months ago #
7. big_n_daft - Member

   The loft is insulated (checked)

   how deep? needs to be 300mm ish

   100% double-glazed

   thick curtains with thermal lining help

   with all recent radiators

   
   put a foil reflector on the wall behind the radiator

   Posted 5 months ago #
8. Cougar - Member

   No draughts = no ventilation = damp? Get a dehumidifier?

   Posted 5 months ago #
9. hora - Member

   Lowey. We've got a farmyard figurine toy kit that is almost impossible to fit back into its plastic case and close.

   Earlier this week it was neatly packed away. Very neatly and mrshora asked me 3 times if I did it. No.

   Posted 5 months ago #
10. organic355 - Member

    my house is cold too, but thats because we just had the fireplace tiled.

    Tiler didnt tell us we wouldnt be able to have the fire on for 3 weeks!!!, if I had known that I would have waited until bloody spring!!!!

    Me the Mrs and cats are missing the fire!!!! brrrrrrrr!!!

    Posted 5 months ago #
11. nealglover - Member

    No draughts = no ventilation = damp? Get a dehumidifier?
    

    I see what you mean, but draughts and ventilation are two very different things really.

    A draught is not controllable and makes your house very cold.
    Ventilation is controllable and won't (unless you want it to)

    Posted 5 months ago #
12. hora - Member

    Dehumidifer? Might give it a whirl and hire one from HSS.

    Posted 5 months ago #
13. Zedsdead - Member

    Dehumidifiers are great - you'll be amazed at how much water they pull out!

    You may as well buy one as you'll get a good one for around £100

    It's also great for drying out your freshly washed clothes - speeds up the process.

    Oh! and...
    

    The walls are pre 1930 brick and we've been told cavity wall insulation isn't possible.

    DON'T! The cavity is there for a reason. Leave it be.

    Posted 5 months ago #
14. thekingisdead - Member

    I'd say you just need to keep heating the fabric of the house, and just accept the heating bills. I dont run my heating during the day, and on friday night the house wouldn't warm up

    With single leaf wall construction I think your only option for significant improvements are to dry line the internal walls with thermal plastboard, or build a cavity, i.e a second wall, seen it done, but I do wonder what the payback would be!

    Posted 5 months ago #
15. hora - Member

    "It's also great for drying out your freshly washed clothes - speeds up the process"

    Damp clothes/hard for them to dry indoors at the mo'. Hmmm I'll have a look at argos/amazon etc

    Posted 5 months ago #
16. rickmeister - Member

    Why shouldnt Hora's cavity be filled....?

    ( I dont usually like double entendre's but I do like to slip one in every now and again... )

    Posted 5 months ago #
17. ebygomm - Member

    Why shouldnt Hora's cavity be filled....?

    Pre 1930s and there's unlikely to be a proper cavity to fill

    Posted 5 months ago #
18. highclimber - Member

    I dont usually like double entendre's but I do like to slip one in every now and again.

    
    Oh do you now!

    Posted 5 months ago #
19. yossarian - Member

    Put a jumper on you northern ponce

    Posted 5 months ago #
20. Holyzeus - Member

    DON'T! The cavity is there for a reason. Leave it be.

    Pathetic, speak to any expert. You need insulation.
    Why is it not possible?
    Age of the double glazing? Old stuff is thin compared to modern units.
    Ditto to the loft insulation, wants to be 300mm. If it's less get more and go 90 deg i.e. across the joists
    Dry lining could be an answer

    Posted 5 months ago #
21. Zedsdead - Member

    Here's the one we got Hora

    Amazon link

    I can highly reccomend it, great little unit. Have a look about as I'm sure we paid just under £100 a couple of years ago.

    Honestly, you'll be shocked at how much water it pulls!

    EDIT:

    on Ebay for £105 posted

    Posted 5 months ago #
22. elaine anne - Member

    lol my house is the same !!!! its a victorian terrace and quite big....ech room has high ceilings... so its freezing in winter and warm in summer....lol..
    as i type now in the back room my right hand feels like its died...ruddy frostbite i tell ya..

    Posted 5 months ago #
23. don simon - Member

    How much are you willing to spend on improvements?

    Posted 5 months ago #
24. spooky_b329 - Member

    Keep doors shut upstairs to prevent heat moving to the top of the house.

    Tuck curtains behind the radiators to direct heat into the room, rather than into the window.

    Got an unused fireplace? I can feel a draft going up mine, you can get a chimney balloon that blocks the chimney, it has a couple of gaps to ensure it remains ventilated and will melt if you light a fire/turn on the gas fire. I just have an empty hearth so I don't have the worry of keeping a gas appliance ventilated so am planning to use the cheap method, apparently you can use the foil inner from a wine box and inflate it in the chimney, with a bit of plastic pipe tucked in the corner to keep some airflow. (the proper thing costs about £25!)

    Posted 5 months ago #
25. beckykirk43 - Member

    My landlord gave us a dehumidifier when I complained about the fact there was enough condensation on my walls that it was running down and getting my stuff wet!
    Not only do I now have drier stuff, no more mould and un-infected sinuses I have a much warmer room - although you have to run it regularly so might add on to your bills a bit (I have no idea how much it costs to run - we just accept a big bill cos with 5 students we use lots of power!).
    Definitely helps for clothes drying too!

    Posted 5 months ago #
26. rickmeister - Member

    Hora, get in touch with teh Energy Saving Trust.. they have loads of grants and stuff...

    http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk

    Really helpful

    Posted 5 months ago #
27. jota180 - Member

    Why is it not possible

    perhaps - like my house - there isn't a cavity just a 9" solid wall?

    Posted 5 months ago #
28. grantway - Member

    Maybe its because your in the Cardboard Box outside the house your describing

    Posted 5 months ago #
29. chickenman - Member

    For flips sake people: The outside temperature's just dropped by 15deg, there is not much heat being stored in the brick your house is built of simply because up untill now it wasn't necessary to heat much to warm the house up.
    If you wan't your cavity filled I can highly recommend Leith Docks for this..might be a bit far just for one evening though..

    Posted 5 months ago #
30. bigbloke - Member

    try heating on a lower setting but on for longer?

    Posted 5 months ago #
31. hora - Member

    Chickenman true

    Grantway eh??

    Posted 5 months ago #
32. grantway - Member

    chickenman - Member
    For flips sake people: The outside temperature's just dropped by 15deg,

    [So Hora is lodging in the Wheelie Bin !]

    Posted 5 months ago #
33. hora - Member

    My box is bigger than yours grantway.....and its branded

    Posted 5 months ago #
34. Edukator - Member

    The walls and floors. At best a standard 30s wall is R = 0.5 The floor if it's 25mm boards over a ventilated air space will be around R= 0.3.

    If you have 200mm of rock wool or fibreglass in the roof that will be around R = 5 to give you a comparison.

    Insulate the walls on the inside or outside depending on space restrictions and budget, 100mm of polystyrene, wood fibre or polyester will bring your wall up to R = 3+. Put 100mm of polyester between the floor joints for R = 3.

    Posted 5 months ago #
35. monksie - Member

    Hora, are you in Greater Manchester? Try http://www.getmetoasty.com/
    I had a head full of broken biscuits when we were being briefed but all the Greater Manchester council staff were hauled in to be told about it, promote it at every opportunity blah,blah
    I seem to remember you get a free survey, cavity wall if needed is free and loft insulation if needed is a maximum charge of £60.
    I think AGMA (Association of Greater Manchester Authorities) underwrite it but get 10% more than the cost back fron central govt.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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