As above really, which shorts tend to be shorter cut in length as many I have tried actually look like 3/4’s when they are not supposed to be!

I’m currently using some Decathlon ones, but they are not the comfiest lined shorts.

Ta

My Endura singletracks fit to just above my knee – I’m 5’7ish with a 29ish leg. HTH

same as woody including measurements. I think mine are XLs as I used to have a gut but I’m now a 34″ waist and they still fit well due to elastic and belt.

And again, 5’7 with Endura Singletracks (L)

Had a look at the Singletracks, which look as though they dont come with liners or am I missing some thing?

Perhaps what I meant is which baggies with built in liner, or is £70+ the going rate for some baggies?

They’re compatible with the clickfast liner, short/liner combo is about £60 IIRC. I wear mine with bibshorts underneath as that always seems more comfortable than the built in liners.

I picked up a pair of Nema shorts at the Mayyhem a couple of years ago and they’re compatible with my desire to get a tan on my thighs whilst riding.

Another vote for Endura singletrack.

Other shorts I own by Endura are a bit on the long side, I’m 5 feet 8 inches tall and these singletrack shorts are just below the knee, perfect.

kids sizes

sorry, Mine are Endura Humvees rather than Singletracks I believe. My mistake. Mine have/came with liners.

Got Pearl Izumi, and they come to nicely ‘just-above-the-knee, I’ve a 30″ (ish) waist and a 26″! inside leg.

APF