Surprised at how little discussion there is of this outside of impact on shares and travel. (and yes I did do a search)
So here's a thought, does the unprecedented lockdown of almost 50 million people suggest that this outbreak is much worse than China and the WHO are letting on, or are they overreacting?
the disaster fappers will be here shortly...you can guess who.
Its easily spread isn't it. So locking down a city is probably a good containment protocol.
It has spread though I heard on R4 earlier.
Ahh well.
does the unprecedented lockdown of almost 50 million people suggest that this outbreak is much worse than China
Well as of this morning is killed more people than flu in China in 2018 or 16&17 combined. Whilst I very much doubt the accuracy of the reported official figures on flu deaths from China (China daily linked below) the national health committee is the same agency now reporting 170 plus to corona virus. Given the US reports 60k deaths per annum (cdc below) a similar level of number massaging would suggest a lot more than 170 deaths but still not many more than flu, in a much shorter time frame than a flu season though, so potentially very bad.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201902/22/WS5c6f11daa3106c65c34eaaf7.html
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm
or are they overreacting?
That's a question that can never be answered. We'll know if they don't do enough but we'll never know what would happen if they did nothing.
I suppose the one good thing is that it's happened in the one country able to act so quickly and decisively. Of course one must recognize why that is which is less that palettable
I suppose the one good thing is that it’s happened in the one country able to act so quickly and decisively.
Hmmm...
https://twitter.com/GearoidReidy/status/1222673517914677248?s=20
It has a sneaky title but we have one.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/building-a-hospital-in-a-week/
Don’t know if you TikTok but here you go:
https://vm.tiktok.com/VYVm8R/
For those who don’t here are the key points:
RLSW is a biotech company based in China. It’s logo is near identical to the Umbrella Corporation in the Resident Evil games.
In those games the “C virus” spreads around Racoon City.
Racoon is an anagram of Corona!
Coincidence? I think not!!1!?!
Brilliant conspiracy graham, could be a movie andin the sequel all the dead people get turned into food for the survivors?
Except for a small error it is quite funny.
I'm quite interested in the ages of the fatalities. The first 20 or so were all over 60. When it reaches the UK that could solve quite a few problems.
We've all heard of pooping through the eye of a needle. I heard that the coronavirus gives you quantum diarrhea, meaning that you can poop through solid materials, and the poop is simultaneously in two places at once. That's how strong this disease is.
One of my sons is in China, school cancelled for another week, everything locked down, have to get your temperature taken to get into the mall, so he's spending a lot of time in his apartment. Told me the other day he'd ploughed through the Witcher in a couple of goes. That's how bad it's getting.
This is different right?? I mean I'm probably not going to buy any but if I was offered a cold one I don;t have to refuse do I???
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Dazh has a point. After an initial crisis, it could simultaneously reduce the pensions crisis, pressure on the NHS, free up housing and seriously threaten the chances of the Tories getting re-elected. 🤔
+No, I don't really want any of that to happen via a killer virus. Except maybe the last one)
tbf tories vs killer virus is a close call
I was thinking yesterday that perhaps earth has decided to take things into its own hands. It has got up one day and thought...right, none of these billions of people are going to pull their finger out and actually do something, so as usual I'm going to have to sort things out myself. Here's an untreatable virus to reduce the population by 5%!
Planet needs a reset button.
Killer virus is a bit more preferable than a nuclear winter.
Here’s an untreatable virus to reduce the population by 5%!
It’ll have to choose something more effective if it only kills 5%.
woe woe and thrice woe.....
tbf tories vs killer virus is a close call
Not really, if I had them both round to dinner, only one would put me off eating the suckling pig.
what I want to know is why do all these viruses originate in China?
1996 avian h5n1
2002 sars
and now we have one named after a Mexican beer.
Animal food markets plus loads of people. Beer virus (varieties of common cold are caused by corona viruses fwiw) likely crossed species from bats, again fwiw. Which is why the Sun calls it 'snake flu"
The rim of the head of the penis is called a corona
The virus in World War Z first emerged in China
Just sayin'
The first 20 or so were all over 60. When it reaches the UK that could solve quite a few problems.
Cheers @dazh
When it reaches the UK that could solve quite a few problems.
If only it had spread before the referendum!
After an initial crisis, it could simultaneously reduce the pensions crisis, pressure on the NHS, free up housing and seriously threaten the chances of the Tories getting re-elected. 🤔
Not to mention the fact that the campaign to rejoin the EU will receive a major boost. Good boost to the economy too with all that inheritance cash floating about. I've already got my eye on a new bike or two. Bring on the #gammonageddon.
Not to mention the fact that the campaign to rejoin the EU will receive a major boost. Good boost to the economy too with all that inheritance cash floating about. I’ve already got my eye on a new bike or two. Bring on the #gammonageddon.
Not another brexit thread.
The rim of the head of the penis is called a corona
Not another helmet thread.
It’ll have to choose something more effective if it only kills 5%.
It certainly would but a virus is probably the thing that will save the planet and it's ever expanding population and consumption.
For example, a very infectious virus with an incubation period of 4 months and a 90% fatality rate would certainly reduce the worlds population by a massive amount.
LOLz @ dazh.
Anyway, on a serious note, this is reminding me to go back and finish reading “Spillover” by David Quammen. It’s a bit weighty - very small print, lots of facty mcfactfaces but it’s an excellent read on how (various) viruses make the crossover from aminals to human beans. Might take a few gos to get through it.
Not another brexit thread.
it's the new godwin's law. maybe we could call it farage's law.
When it reaches the UK that could solve quite a few problems.
There was a very sketchy and vague news story lunch time about someone in a UK hotel who has fallen ill.
Over-reaction? Hard to judge, or rather people are poor judges. China has a population of 2Bn and about 100 people have died. To some people that's "a load of overblown bollocks".
On the other hand you've got a virus that contagious before symptoms shows and can kill people, that sounds pretty scary to me. China and the rest of the world have taken huge steps to avoid it spreading, if it works and it all goes away then the cynics will be proven right in their own minds anyway.
What's more scary than the thought of 5% of the global population being wiped out, is that it would only take us back to around 2014/15 levels 20% would take us back to around 2000.
It certainly would but a virus is probably the thing that will save the planet and it’s ever expanding population and consumption.
For example, a very infectious virus with an incubation period of 4 months and a 90% fatality rate would certainly reduce the worlds population by a massive amount.
Yup I very much believe a pandemic virus of some description will wipe out millions.
Wonder what the 'Recovered' stat is on there - would that be 'admitted to hospital, treated and discharged'? It seems like a small number compared to all the others which is at odds with the reports of 'many cases are mild' and 'mortality is relatively low'.
It certainly would but a virus is probably the thing that will save the planet and it’s ever expanding population and consumption.
Possibly - my money's on major volcanic event that lowers global temps by a couple of degrees for a couple of decades, as in the 'mini ice ages' of previous centuries.
what I want to know is why do all these viruses originate in China?
1996 avian h5n1
2002 sars
And MERS. Hold on...
Wasn't the Black Death from China too?
and now we have one named after a Mexican beer.
It's far worse than that
This stuff would make people wear brown corduroy flares, sleep on nylon sheets and eat cheese and pineapple off a cocktail stick. Some even covered their walls in large orangey coloured flowery wallpaper and drive Austin Allegros. Those of us that saw it will never forget, god help us all if it gets as bad as that!
Why didn't they return the bottles?
Anyway, on a serious note,
Who said I'm not being serious? Wonder if a Dustin Hoffman type figure is currently flying round China in a stolen helicopter? Also looking forward to the panic buying. It's going to be like the 2000 fuel crisis on steroids. Boris Johnson has no doubt got Cummings writing a Churchillian speech ready to be delivered from the COBRA bunker.
Sars was also a coronavirus, more lethal but less contagious, this bad boy has already infected more than sars did but killed significantly less; thus far....
Sars 8098 infects, 774 death
Corona >8000 infects, 170 deaths
Sars was also a coronavirus, more lethal but less contagious, this bad boy has already infected more than sars did but killed significantly less; thus far….
Sars 8098 infects, 774 death
Corona >8000 infects, 170 deaths
Without being too morbid, of the 8000 currently infected how many will die? Maybe it's less-lethal, or maybe there's hundreds of people on hospital wards right now who'll succumb to it in the days ahead.
I can't help but think I'm rooting for the virus.
