I am guessing, I've not weighed it for ages, it may be 17 or more, but it was that neck of the woods I think. It's a pretty run of the mill spec, Bontrager carbon bar and stem, Alien seatpost, Toupe SL saddle, Keo Carbon Ti pedals.
It's old frame now too, the 2005 Madone SL, it was the lightest at the time, not even close now!
I'll get round to replacing it, but it's still a really nice bike to ride!
if only the uci would shift abit on that min weight limit eh?
I have spent a bloody fortune on bike bits over the years and have recently revised my thinking. Don't bother with XTR or equivalent - too expensive and makes very little difference. Also don't buy crap. Middle and higher so usually slx sometimes xt. Also there are cheap things that can make a real difference - tyres and tubes can save alot of rotational weight cheaply which does help.
I think it's surprising it's stuck where it has, but I don't think it's a bad thing, it's made the use of power meters and aero parts much more prevalent, which I think is good. It's forced innovation in different ways.
17 is about right; I've got a 2001 OCLV with Ultegra stuff and it comes in about 18lbs, still no slower than a 16.5lb Scott addict though..
i guess so.
i dont supose we would see all that stuff if it was loads lower.
but I'm relatively confident that if I went out on the Madone with a 5lb bag I'd still go quicker up the hills than on the Allez.
I imagine that you're right. Stiffer frame, wheels and faster tyres probably...
Nonk - 140lbs bike - 25lbs
5.6:1
Me - 85kg bike - 15kg
5.66:1
I wouuld agree, bikes over 15kg (33lbs) to me start to feel sluggish..
I feel a new thread coming on....
Same here brianbrian. Ultegra on the road bikes and XT on the mountainbikes (except for XTR shifters yum yum)I'm not a lightweight breakaway racer more of a plough through anything type i.e the Crits and TT guys muller me, but the tables (used) to get turned on rough country lane road races.
Hoping that's still the case come March 
You know in the days when people put a bike bottle or two on the frame? Could you tell the difference between full and empty bottles on the climbs?
I've always found it's the trend for heavier bikes to have worse climbing geometry and bigger tyres that slows me more than the actual mass of the bike.
I imagine that you're right. Stiffer frame, wheels and faster tyres probably
Tyres are often the same, if not similar, I doubt the wheels are stiffer (20/24 spoke RXLs vs handbuilt 32 spoke wheels on Open Pros with DT Competitions) and even if they are you're talking about minute amounts, as there's no real brake rub. I will agree on the stiffer frame, but we're talking bigger differences than that.
When the weather gets nicer I'll stick the PowerTap on the Madone and go and ride up a hill and see how long it takes compared to the Allez.
I've got a 2001 OCLV with Ultegra stuff and it comes in about 18lbs,
It's a whole chunk lighter than that, no common parts at all, I'll go back to my 16.5 estimate 
I would hope (dunno why) that mine comes in under the 20lb mark.
PX Carbon Pro
FSA Carbon wing bars(heavy) FSA Carbon post & stem, FSA Carbon Team chainset 53/39 with LOOK Keos.
Ultegra 10 speed
Very very old Alex A-Class 430 wheels with heavy old Pavés
One of my mates had a bike shop and when the local roadies came in with new bling bikes, he would offer to weigh them. He always used a piece of foam to protect the paint.
I found out a few years later that the foam had a lead lining, psychology in action...
One of my mates had a bike shop and when the local roadies came in with new bling bikes, he would offer to weigh them. He always used a piece of foam to protect the paint.
I found out a few years later that the foam had a lead lining, psychology in action...
LOL - sneaky 
Haha! That's harsh! I do enjoy telling people their bikes weigh more than they think, but I tell them the honest weight.
What difference does a light bike make?
I weigh 200 pounds + even 10 years ago I was 175 maybe 180.
The main difference a light bike makes for me is a walk home. Lighter wheels, thinner bits and stuff just break on me.
If your 12 stone I expect a light bike is a great thing to have but I'm not so it isn't.
folks allways do njee its weird as i said my asr is around 23 pound.
folks always pick it up saying stuff along the lines of whats that then? 19..20?
power of marketing maybe?
Yeah everyone does expect their bike is lighter, you've only gotta see from the optimism in some of the posts on here!
Just been out all afternoon in the mountains. Had to lift my bike over 6 fences not to mention some steep hills.
Light is good.
Light is more versatile.
Light is right.
Heavy is for flatlanders.
When I read anti-weight weenie posts, I often wonder if the difference is that some people have seriously steep hills in their area and others don't.
I have a 5lb variation between my lightest and heaviest bike and I would say I can't really tell the difference climbing. I guess if you already have sub 14% body fat, your bike's set up well and you have the budget then buy some lighter parts. If not there are better ways to get faster.
One area that does confuse me though is wheel weight: Weight at the rims is supposed to be worth twice the weight on the bike but what about inertia? Surely once up to speed the inertia means that the wheels go over rough stuff with less loss of speed. So unless you ride on very tight start stop singletrack (leigh woods) wheel weight is no different from any other weight on the bike? There is lots of arguments about climbing wheel weight on roadie forums and just like this thread there is no concensus there either.
juan - Member
...how many 1-1.5 m high drop off on rocky terrain do you think a super light bike is going to sustain...?
If you are riding drop-offs a lot, then hopefully you have a suitable bike. Presumable you are riding it up the hills. Would you really be happy doing that if it was heavier by say 3-4kg?
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