What's wrong with a pink shirt?
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Wearing a suit to work, WHY.
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You are joking, aren't you?Posted 4 months ago # -
You are joking, aren't you?
I don't think our Cap'n is.
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You drank in a pub full of ignorant, opinionated bigots? Did you feel comfortable in there yourself?
And what sort of reaction would I get were I to saunter into one of your favoured watering holes, wearing a tracksuit?
Cos from what I gather, based on the apparent unsuitability of such places for the likes of myself and my family, I suspect it woon't be all that positive....
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It was YOUR reaction that would be the problem. Not that of anyone in said pubs. Did you not get that?
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I don't think our Cap'n is.
Oh dear! I'm beginning to get a mental picture... And it's not good.
Should one still put the chain on view?Posted 4 months ago # -
It was YOUR reaction that would be the problem. Not that of anyone in said pubs. Did you not get that?
Er, never having met me, how would you know what my reaction would be?
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Don, WTF is that chain all about? Crikey!
C_G, pink shirts are ace. I used to have to go to Nashville rather too often, and I'd always wear pink there. They didn't get it! I was either gay or a communist, and in the eyes of the South, neither is a good thing, you could feel the quandary welling up in them!
I like pink shirts. I think they look rather good, especially when worn with a good suit and a good tie.
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I like pink shirts. I think they look rather good, especially when worn with a good suit and a good tie.
Oh my god, no!
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Cap'n - I'm afraid that to me, pink smacks of insincerity. Probably due to it being the chosen attire of idiot presenters on TV!
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Oh dear.
I have some nice powder blue Oxfords if you prefer....
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I think yellow is more your colour, Flashy.
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In my view not wearing a suit in a corporate environment means you have an attitude that you can do whatever the **** you like and don't 'need' to conform. Managed to make it work to plc director level as did the rest of the board including presentations to VCs from New York to Taiwan and our stock brokers. Maybe wearing a suit is a tax you pay for being a bit similar to everyone else in your industry?
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Incidentally, football manager wearing suit = doesn't have a bath with players. football manager in tracksuit = does....
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Interesting. I'm a 50 year old GP.
What would you... or your mum expect me to wear?
I'm an almost 50 year old consultant physician
Wouldn't want a doctor to wear a tie, well known source of infection (think about it: how often do you clean a tie?)
Would expect a doctor to look reasonably smart, though - or otherwise lab coat / hospital uniform.
Lab coats and ties have the same problem - infection city. NHS dress code is now no ties, or tucked away if you must, and bare below elbows. I stopped wearing a white coat when I was 3 years qualified, stopped weearing a suit when I stopped doing interviews/exams. I do have a couple of jackets and dress shirts/ties for court appearances.
Usual dress is polo shirt and chinos. I switched to boots instead of shoes when I had a slipped disc and a dicky ankle and I never went back although they are leather and most people probably think they are just decent leather shoes. When I abandoned ties the only comment from patients was positive.
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Pink is my favourite colour for smart shirts... and lycra.
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I'll admit to being 'old school', just not keen on this casual approach for some occupations/situations.
Funnily enough, my adult son likes wearing a suit to work. That could of course be due to seeing his father wear a suit every day.
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* waves to TSY - how are you doing?
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Real men wear pink. FACT!
This. Blue is soooooo drab. A nice bright shirt from Ted Baker finishes off a plain suit.Posted 4 months ago # -
Aye, not bad Auntie C_G... just trying to shake of the Christmas cobwebs. How are you?
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A nice bright shirt from Ted Baker finishes off a plain suit.
Ted Baker? Are you mad?
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Cobwebs? You? Nah! Are you back to your usual exercise routine now? Leg all healed?
I'm OK, having a MRI of the shoulder in a few days. Been pootling on gravel tracks, shouldn't really but you know how it is.
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Much of this thread just illustrates the utterly wanky non-meritocratic nature of business in the UK. "You don't look like us penguins, so we won't deal with you no matter how good you or your product/services are". Thankfully there are exceptions.
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Haha... yep I do know how it is... most physio's say you should do some exercise if you can
Seriously I sat on my arse pretty much the whole Xmas break going from one illness to the next. Back on it now, went to the gym 3 times today!
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Are you mad?
Mr Flash.. with regards to your earlier comments..
The pub I drank in was not populated by bigots and the ignorant as you suggest.. just simple common folk with an understandably healthy distrust of authority.. which is undeniably the main attribute of a suits symbolism no..?
I know from other threads that you find it incredibly difficult to relate to folk from a different social strata to yourself but could you perhaps attempt to keep your condescending judgements a little less rude and confrontational in future..
for the sake of me ulcers like..
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Much of this thread just illustrates the utterly wanky non-meritocratic nature of business in the UK. "You don't look like us penguins, so we won't deal with you no matter how good you or your product/services are". Thankfully there are exceptions.
If you can't beat 'em join 'em?
Certain industries it will be expected that one has to look a wee bit 'edgy'. Perhaps the boundaries are blurring these days or perhaps they are not being spelt out?
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Go on iDave, just think how much money you can take off those penguins if you wear a suit. I treated being in business like acting, playing the role I thought most likely to get me business. There were clients I didn't work for but that was down to them putting conditions in the contract I decided made the work bad business. I even shaved for two weeks for one contract. hwo did that Queen song go? "prostitute yourself he said castrate your human pride". And make more money with less effort.
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If you can't beat 'em join 'em?
Can't means won't.
Richard Branson, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did OK without suits.
I get your point edukator, but there are other ways to get money. IME we raised £9m funding without recourse to suits. the project that took me to geneva started off insisting on suits, then realised it was bloody stupid.
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I hate wearing suits, I just find them uncomfortable. Luckily I have a job where I can go to work in jeans, t-shirt and trainers. Or shorts if it's a warm day
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Google images say Bill Gates usually wears a suit and tie. Google images say Branson usually wears a suit but no tie. I'd like to bet all three wore a suit and tie whe they went to see their banker in their early years in business.
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for the sake of me ulcers like..
Q: What do you call an Elf in a suit?
A: The accused!
No seriously it's true!
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£100-150 to fit a suit?
Old dear in the local cleaners adjusted my jacket for £10, took in about 4" at the waist as I'm a bit triangular. Did try a size down, but my shoulders nearly pushed the sleeves off.In the workplace I think it is dictated by your activity and company image/presentation/perception.
For me it doesn't make much difference, it's all going to look like the bottom of a mucky puddle with grease stains after 10 minutes.
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Sometimes you just have to play the game ... if you want the work that is.
A polite request to Captain Flashheart - you would be very welcome on a Forum Ride and hopefully you would glean that there are some really good people around! Yes, we're all different but not bad. Food for thought?
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As someone said, it's depends on context and what's appropriate. For me:
- government meetings: full suit (and yes, girls wear them too), and 'don't mess with me' heeled boots
- conferences: if I'm presenting, suit again (plus heels so I can see over the top of the podium
)- research network meetings: 'smart' but not suit
- office: more casual, but scruffy jeans and trainers would be no-no, so usually a dress.
Don't have a problem wearing any off the above, and happy to curl up in jeans and a hoody when at home.
Oh, and CFH - c_g +1
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authority.. which is undeniably the main attribute of a suits symbolism no..?
No, of course, not - anyone can have a suit. Nothing to do with authority. It's about a convention of smartness. Of course it's not REALLY about looking smart since someone could make a great effort and/or look good in a tshirt and jeans; and someone else could just roll out of bed and throw on a suit and look like crap. It's just a convention.
What's wrong with looking professional?
I can look and act professionally in casual clothes. It's all in your demeanor and attitude. I can also look and act totally uselessly in a suit
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i look like a serial killer at the best of times, i have to wear a suit when talking to regulators and representing my clients interests otherwise they would think I'm there to collect money with menaces that they owe to "big Barry"
it also helps that as soon a finish pretending to be a grown up professional type, i can change back into my usual attire, smash half a pound of metal and carved wood back into my face and become "me" again
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