Seems as if a lot of companies are forceing staff to wear a suit and shirt and tie, along with shoes, as opposed to t shirt, jeans and trainers as i wear to work.
Also schools seem to want the children to wear a uniform yet the teachers wear what they like surely they should all wear a corporate uniform, same as the children.
WHY AND DISCUSS NICELY PLEASE.
DISCUSS NICELY PLEASE.
Oh dear. You really haven't got the hang of this, have you? 
We are suited and booted when we're out meeting clients, but when in the office its a shirt and trousers (apart from dress down Friday).
Personally, I feel more professional when in the whistle & flute
Because people respect a suit, rightly or wrongly. It's a uniform.
I used to work in all sorts of companies with directors, sometimes in jeans, sometimes in suits. The difference in the way people treated me was noticeable.
our vice chancellor is on record saying academics shouldn't be wearing jeans and t-shirts. oh how we laughed.
The scruffiest people in my place seem to be the ones that wear suits.
One bloke wears a suit every day (same suit too, I think) and he looks a right mess - white flakes and fluff all over the shoulders like he's had the dregs of a cornflakes packet tipped over him.
Still, it is an IT department.
Annoying isn't it.
I'm meant to be suited and booted. However my job takes me onto building site, up silos with a harness fitted, down mine shafts, into quarries, farms, lofts, farmers fields and recently helping to drag over two tons of armoured cable under the foundations of Whipps Cross hospital in the pitch black.
Not practical really.
Because people respect a suit, rightly or wrongly
There was a vaguely interesting study done which showed that people were more likely to follow someone crossing a pedestrian red light if they were wearing a suit.
Many years ago (about 20) our CEO sent a memo (paper thing used before emails) complaining that some men were rolling up their sleeves. This was in a modern, very high tech Cambridge company.
Always wear shirt and tie at least for office work, getting suited up seems to help get me in the right frame of mind. Definitely influences how lots of people interact with you.
There was a vaguely interesting study done which showed that people were more likely to follow someone crossing a pedestrian red light if they were wearing a suit.
People moved towards the suited dude and away from the (pickpocket) hoodie wearer.
You also get much better service in shops if you're wearing a suit, noticable especially if you're trying to return things that they really shouldn't accept etc.
We've had various professors wearing various outfits. One guy has been known to wear board shorts whilst teaching, another constantly wears sandals and socks with slacks and nice shirts. Another wears jeans and jumpers, another wears smart trousers and shirts. I really don't care. The ones who are good at teaching get respect.
You also get much better service in shops if you're wearing a suit, noticable especially if you're trying to return things that they really shouldn't accept etc.
Haven't had to wear shirt & tie for a few years now - New Director arrived with a preference for a more relaxed attitude towards work related clothing . Director left, but relaxed nature still remains( I.T.)
P.S. - Oldgit - You're occupation sounds interesting !
Chris
I work at home and always feel I'm ahead of the game if I've got dressed before I sit down to work.
Doing work related, audio, Skype calls in a dressign gown and slippers feels a tad casual.
The scruffiest people in my place seem to be the ones that wear suits.
Which is perhaps where suits make sense. If you can't dress yourself you'll look better (from your employers point of view) badly dressed in a suit than badly dressed in something else of your own ill-informed choosing.
Thats no help for me though, I don't own a suit
SnS just electrical wholesaler, but specialist areas, Hazardous mainly.
I think having to wear a suit all the time is stupid, as is even a shirt and smart trousers. At this place (a bank) all the blokes are in shirts and smart trousers, but the women get far more leeway. Some are even in jeans. It's all a bit stupid really. But there you go, that's society for you.
WHY AND DISCUSS NICELY PLEASE.
Because we're not complete jakes and we take pride in our appearance???
Suits are for going to court in.
If you can't dress yourself you'll look better (from your employers point of view) badly dressed in a suit than badly dressed in something else of your own ill-informed choosing.
Never worn a suit for work (or interviews or meetings - decent jeans and a smart shirt and shoes are fine). I do envy the City types with the cash for a wardrobe of bespoke Savile Row suits. I'd wear a suit then.
I haven't owned a suit in years. I tend to buy decent looking jackets and pair them up with smart trousers when attending meetings. I very rarely wear a tie these days apart from when attending meetings with certain clients or when hosting workshops.
I'd rather spend my money on decent shirts than on ties and in the industry I work in (recycling) very few people are impressed by a suit.
the industry I work in (recycling) very few people are impressed by a suit.
s'funny. I was at a presentation a few weeks back - the launch of a new compact pyrolysis plant. Everyone there was in at least a jacket and tie.
Regardless of what anyone says - first impressions count. A suit does imply professionalism and a certain set of standards - when worn properly of course.
We don't have a dress code where I work, but we still have a dress down Friday attitude. I won't have meetings with people outside our organization on a Friday - too many of my colleagues would shame me with their scruffiness.
Suits are to bosses as magnolia is to property sellers: a reliable benchmark for minimum presentability. Both look crap when dirtied, too.
I get bigger facilities and more attractive women when I'm wearing a flatteringly cut, well fitting suit. As this is all that is important in my life, yadda yadda yadda.
Try getting a nice suit, wear it and see what happens.
project - MemberAlso schools seem to want the children to wear a uniform yet the teachers wear what they like surely they should all wear a corporate uniform, same as the children.
I've taught guitar in numerous schools for the last 7 years and every single school that I've worked in, both primary and secondary, have required all male classroom teachers to wear a suit. I too wear a suit everyday for work-it give a smart and professional appearance imo.
I too wonder about the drive to enforce conformity using uniforms and workwear. Though I do draw the line at 3/4 length cargo pants, chav sportswear, leggings, and crocs/flip-flops.
I am sat here typing this wearing an Animal tshirt Alpkit baggy jeans and Nike 6.0s I have a mainly desk based job but am often out in our washplant so a suit would easily get ruined.
When having meeting with customers/potential customers I wear shirt trousers and shoes but when suppliers come here I might wear a casual shirt if I remember they are coming. I appretiate that first impressions count and would expect one of my suppliers to come to (at least a first) a meeting in a shirt.
I teach in a private school and dress code for men is shirt and tie. A little OTT maybe but it does make it easier to enforce uniform rules when wearing a tie yourself. I don't mind it and I feel better when I meet the parents dressed smarter. The school is in an affluent area so the parents dress smart (or at least expensively).
On the point of uniform, I think it's good at levelling the playing field when it comes to being singled out for being poor/different. Not everyone can afford or wants to wear the latest fashions so grey slacks and black shoes for everyone takes the pressure off there. It's a lot more manageable when you only have 999,999 things to cause conflict.
I'm forced to wear a tie for work. Gives the company a backwards and old fashioned image IMHO.
I got bollocked on the first day for not wearing one (had smart shirt, jacket, trousers on) so asked if there was going to be a wedding that day.
On the point of uniform, I think it's good at levelling the playing field when it comes to being singled out for being poor/different
As if the kids don't know who has a poor family and who doesn't?
On the point of uniform, I think it's good at levelling the playing field when it comes to being singled out for being poor/different. Not everyone can afford or wants to wear the latest fashions so grey slacks and black shoes for everyone takes the pressure off there. It's a lot more manageable when you only have 999,999 things to cause conflict.
The effort to look smart is small compared to the favourable difference in how people perceive you. It's a very economical way of coming across better to people you want something from, beit your clients' money or pupils' parents' trust.
The negatives are sometimes there though - I've heared people say techies who dress smart are making up for their lack of technical ability. I prefer to think they're more the complete package.
And don't forget the cost of uniforms, often available from one supplier at a fixed price, stresses those families who are already hard-pressed
I teach in a private school
On the point of uniform, I think it's good at levelling the playing field when it comes to being singled out for being poor/different.
As if the kids don't know who has a poor family and who doesn't?
True, but at least they're not going to get stick for not having the right trainers/brands on top of whatever else they may get. It's not much, granted, but it is something.
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