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[url= http://www.visitmymosque.org/ ]Sunday is Visit My Mosque Day,[/url]and the Muslim Council of Great Britain are throwing open mosques to anyone who wants to go and have a look and, presumably, meet some of the faithful.
Now I think all religion is silly, and aspects of Islam, as practised today in Britain, backward. But in the spirit of understanding and friendship, I think I'm going to go along, and take my kids.
I love the idea that the racists, zealots and xenophobes on both sides will carry on ignoring each other with fear and suspicion, while the good and reasonable folk of the world are meeting up and having a cup of tea and a natter together on a Sunday afternoon.
D'ya mind if I sit this one out....
No interest in visiting churches or synagogues either but at least in those women are afforded equal status.
I love the idea that the racists, zealots and xenophobes on both sides will carry on ignoring each other with fear and suspicion, while the good and reasonable folk of the world are meeting up and having a cup of tea and a natter together on a Sunday afternoon.
Hmmm, I agree with you.
There are [i]some[/i] nice people around, you just have to seek them out.
D'ya mind if I sit this one out....
Why? I go to muslim prayers most Fridays.
I've been a couple of times to my local mosques, once for Friday prayers. I found it a very worthwhile experience, firstly it increased my understanding of Islam, and secondly it provided an opportunity for Muslims to engage with non-Muslims who were keen to learn more. Mutual respect breaks down the barriers created by fear and ignorance.
If you were invited to visit a church in the spirit of increased understanding, would you do it?
You talking to me?
No interest in visiting churches or synagogues either but at least in those women are afforded equal status.
What's the point in being educated? Its well overated.
If you were invited to visit a church in the spirit of increased understanding, would you do it?
And for that reason I'm unlikely to visit a mosque, except maybe to uspset the ignorant bigots. 😀
hebdencyclist - Member
... while the good and reasonable folk of the world are meeting up and having a cup of tea and a natter together on a Sunday afternoon.
What topic are you going to chat about? 😛
Hmm, might do this actually. I know very little about Islam and perhaps I should know more.
Free bar?
Ok, 2 quick questions, to everyone. What denomination do you consider yourself to be & do you ever go to your place of worship, if you have one? (apart from weddings & funerals)
No interest in visiting churches or synagogues either but at least in those women are afforded equal status.
Not sure that is true of all synagogues.
Ali's Snack Bar?
Ok, 2 quick questions, to everyone. What denomination do you consider yourself to be & do you ever go to your place of worship, if you have one? (apart from weddings & funerals)
Atheist. I accept those that feel they need religion and have no respect those who feel the need to ram it down my throat, try to convert me or simply think they can look down on me.
if your local vicar asked you to go to the local church for an open day, would you do this too?
Depends if there was a free bar.
Ok, 2 quick questions, to everyone. What denomination do you consider yourself to be & do you ever go to your place of worship, if you have one? (apart from weddings & funerals)
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-first-stw-religion-poll ]This was sort of done before[/url], however what you ask may be worth adding to the entirely-scientific data I gathered 8 months ago.
No interest in visiting churches or synagogues either but at least in those women are afforded equal status.
I've never met a female Priest
As above. Even the pope still doesn't think women are good enough to spread the word.
I will not be attending any sky fairy meetings.
...as far as you know.
I've never met a female Priest
You've never encountered the CofE?
Anyway, what neilwheel says above is nonsense. Those who undertake work in the Roman Catholic Church include celibate clergy and religious alike, including men and women. There are limits to what the men can do and limits to what the women can do.
It doesn't correspond with modern sensibilities, of course, but it is not true to say that '[e]ven the pope still doesn't think women are good enough to spread the word.'
Why not just stick to the topic of Visit My Mosque Day, instead of having another religion thread?
[i]Harun Khan, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain said, “As the world recoils at President Trump’s so called ‘Muslim Ban’ and now the mass killing at a mosque in Canada, #VisitMyMosque is a much needed antidote to the poisonous atmosphere we find ourselves in. This Sunday 5 February, the British public, Muslim and non-Muslim have an opportunity to come together and renew bonds of friendship.”[/i]
I've never met a female Priest
You've never encountered the CofE?
That's a Vicar.
Why not just stick to the topic of Visit My Mosque Day, instead of having another religion thread?
Because there wouldn't be many replies I'd imagine.
I bet I've attended more Friday prayers than you though Ernie.
ernie_lynch - Member
Why not just stick to the topic of Visit My Mosque Day, instead of having another religion thread?
Yes, I agree but what topic(s) do you want to talk about if you have a visit day?
That's a Vicar.
If you read the Ordinal of the Church of England (and ALL other Anglican Churches), you would see that they are called priests.
To be a 'vicar' is simply to hold a position. Like a 'chaplain' or a 'rector' or 'curate' or whatever.
I think that's well put.the British public, Muslim and non-Muslim have an opportunity to come together and renew bonds of friendship.”
If I go, it won't be anything to do with sky fairies. It will be for this ^^
do you ever go to your place of worship
Does this count?
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Am I being flippant?
I bet I've attended more Friday prayers than you though Ernie.
Well I didn't realise that it was a competition but yes, I'm sure you have - I've been to Friday Prayers just once. But then attending Friday Prayers isn't part of my job, and I'm not a Muslim, so that's not entirely surprising.
That's a Vicar.
Not necessarily it could also be a Rector, a Curate, a Canon, an Archdeacon etc etc. But whatever position they hold, they are all priests. To really confuse you, we call our 30 year old gay Vicar, Father.
If you read the Ordinal of the Church of England.....
I think I must have left my copy on the train.
If I go, it won't be anything to do with sky fairies. It will be for this ^^
If you keep talking about 'sky fairies' instead of using the term religious people use, you won't be renewing any bonds of friendship.
You don't have to believe in God to say 'God', as opposed to insulting people who do by deploying derisory names.
That's a Vicar.If you read the Ordinal of the Church of England (and ALL other Anglican Churches), you would see that they are called priests.
See, that's how wars start. I thought religion was supposed to be about loving thy neighbour and all that crap and not proving who is better, or, indeed, been to a mosque more than someone else.
#children
If you read the Ordinal of the Church of England.....
I stand corrected.
I've still never met a female catholic priest.
Happier?
I think I must have left my copy on the train.
Here you go:
[url= http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/1662/Orig_manuscript/ordinal.htm ]Church of England Ordinal 1662[/url]
Those who undertake work in the Roman Catholic Church include celibate clergy and religious alike, including men and women. There are limits to what the men can do and limits to what the women can do.
The women are limited to the roles that men decide are suitable, where as the men are not.
If you keep talking about 'sky fairies' instead of using the term religious people use, you won't be renewing any bonds of friendship.You don't have to believe in God to say 'God', as opposed to insulting people who do by deploying derisory names.
Aaaand...
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35 posts before someone tries to start an argument.
It was nice while it lasted.
I don't see SaxonRider trying to start an argument. Using the term 'sky faries' is pretty inflammatory don't you think?
It's that kind of behaviour* that makes the arguments inevitable. And it happens over and over again.
* actually, it's specifically that usually.
The women are limited to the roles that men decide are suitable, where as the men are not.
I suppose that would be consistent with the way most ancient history is interpreted today, so okay, I'll concede your point.
hebdencyclist - Member
the British public, Muslim and non-Muslim have an opportunity to come together and renew bonds of friendship.”I think that's well put.
If I go, it won't be anything to do with sky fairies. It will be for this ^^
Topic?
Topic of friendship?
You are not going to stay silent throughout the visit are you? 😛
I will not be attending any sky fairy meetings.
So the Muslim Council of Britain are extending a hand of friendship and your reaction is "I will not be attending any sky fairy meetings". Well you're entitled to your opinion but I can't help thinking that that sort of attitude is unlikely to make the world a better place.
Of course you might think everything's just hunky-dory in the world today.
Here you go:
Thanks, but I may have being a bit flippant 😆
I was meaning that "generally" people refer to catholic "priests" and CofE "vicars"
You rarely hear people say it any different (possibly a change since 1662 ?)
And I'm also reasonably sure you realised exactly what was meant in the the female priest post.
I've been to Friday Prayers just once.
Any idea what was going on? Did you find out anything you didn't already know? Ok, so it is part of my job & I've taken some interest. (even though I don't understand the lingo)