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mrsflash - Member

the only change we have made to the heating is have it on more in the day as I'm home more - just made sure baby is dressed appropriately and don't use hand or feet as temp guages at first, use back if their neck or their chest. The sleeping bags ares good but swaddlibg excellent for keeping the startle reflex (flailing arms) at bay which often wakes them up.

6 months??? 6 weeks, more like! The sooner you can get baby out of your room the sooner all of you will start sleeping through the night...

I don't understand this obsession with getting them to sleep through the night whewn they're tiny, they need food in the night up till around 6 months because their stomachs are so small. If you happen to have one that does sllep through before that you're just lucky I guess.

Posted 1 year ago #
joemarshall - Member

Absolutely, massively, totally support comments for baby grow bags, bloody brilliant. Seem expensive (are expensive!), but you can buy second hand and if you have a few different togs you are are covered.

I've got a bunch off ebay, never paid more than a fiver for them.

Bear in mind the tog ratings (as in the diagram in the post above) - you really do need the 0.5 tog ones in summer, and really do need the 2.5 tog ones in winter.

Joe

Posted 1 year ago #
farmer giles - Member

mrsflash - thank you for your comment regarding sleeping through the night. Little farmer goes to bed at 7pm and usually wakes at 11pm and 2.30am for feeds and he is 7 months old. Bad nights are wakes every 2 hours or less
His bedroom temp varies between 22c and 17c but doesn't seem to cause any suprise awakenings!
yes to oil fired rad and sleeping/gro bags.
he also seems calmer (and so do me and his mum) with a Jack Johnson cd playing softly in the background, too

Posted 1 year ago #
GrahamS - Member

I don't understand this obsession with getting them to sleep through the night whewn they're tiny, they need food in the night up till around 6 months

Yep +1. Breastfed newborns are supposed to need food 8-12 times in 24 hours so that means being woken up a few times at night if you are doing feed-on-demand.

Posted 1 year ago #
clubber - Member

Haven't read all the above but my son's room is the coldest in the house so we just got a plug in oil radiator for his room which we use during the coldest months to keep the room just warm enough. 15deg I think is the coldest it's gone though usually more like 16-17 (hard to say for certain as the radiator isn't that accurate and for the same setting it's colder some nights than others - temp read by the monitor which we're lazy and just leave on all the time).

Posted 1 year ago #
Markie - Member

+1 for the swaddling when they still have the Moro 'startle' reflex (how cute it is!)!

Posted 1 year ago #
GrahamS - Member

Our little one hated swaddling and would howl and throw herself around till she escaped it. It was like watching a very angry caterpillar.

She's 7 months now and still sleeps with her hands above her head as if she is in freefall.

Posted 1 year ago #
takisawa2 - Member

Age old debate, & the usual chest-beating cave-man responses.

I keep our house temp constant, dropping only a few degrees at night.
(Bedrooms generally 18c, living room 21-22c). Otherwise the CH is working its nads off from 5am trying to heat it back up again. Monitored it over 2 winters now, & its no more expensive to keep it warm as keep letting it cool down. Ours isnt the best insulated, by design, so probably a different rationale for a newer better insulated house. After growing up in a badly insulated, badly heated council house as a kid I'm no rush to go back to freezing my ass off.

Posted 1 year ago #
GrahamS - Member

Isn't temperature a bit simplastic anyway?

18 in a damp house with draughts and poorly-sealed single-glazing will feel a lot colder than 18 in a well-insulated triple-glazed new build.

(just noticed there is half a centimetre of ice on the inside of the windows in the nursery, so I'll let you guess which type of house we're in!)

Posted 1 year ago #
mildred - Member

Ok, when we had our 2 (now 4 + 2) the mother in law had a bit to say on this.

Now oridinarly I'd be the 1st to jump in with interfering mother in law jokes, but on this occasion i kept it buttoned; She's been a midwifery Sister and lecturer for the Royal College of Midwives for over 35 years, and now retired some time. Her advice to us, all based in the prevention of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS, or cot death):

1st 6 months baby should be in your room, next to your bed so they can hear you breathing (absolute minimum of 1st 12 weeks, but longer the better)

Optimal room temperature range is 16-20 degrees, with the ideal at 18 degrees. It felt on the cool side to us; we have the thermostat at 18.5 generally.

Use layers to regulate their temperature - their temp' regulation system doesn't work at birth so you have to do it for them. heat is directly related to SIDS (but not exclusively associated). remember that their clothing as well as blankets, grow bags etc counts as layers.

Baby should be at bottom of cot so they can't wriggle down under covers; they can't wriggle back out and will overheat. baby sleeping bags are great, because even if they wriggle around they will remain covered properly.

No pillows or big cuddly toys

Firm flat mattress

Baby to sleep on their back.

Breast is best. Breast fed babies statistically suffer less incidents of SIDS.

She now agrees that all of the recommendations may well have changed since she retired 5 years ago, but that was her 2 penny's worth.

Posted 1 year ago #
GrahamS - Member

She now agrees that all of the recommendations may well have changed since she retired 5 years ago, but that was her 2 penny's worth.

Sounds pretty identical to the advice we got. Mrs is a doctor so she was keen that we did everything by the book.
(though we did use some very careful co-sleeping, which is supposed to be a no-no).

Posted 1 year ago #
carbon337 - Member

Thanks for all the advice chaps.

THe plan is then - maybe raise the overnight temp up a bit to 15 but use an oil filled radiator in our room for first few weeks.

Got a 2.5 gro bag but will get a few more from ebay. If anyone is selling newborn ones let me know.

Posted 1 year ago #
mrsflash - Member

Mildred I think the only change is that now ( i forget why) dummies are good for sids prevention as well.

Farmer, Teddy is only 12 weeks but I have lost count of the people asking me if he's sleeping through yet, or worse asking if he's "good" by which they mean the same. Drives me up the wall. Still, at least only one person has suggested formula as a "solution" shame it had to be my stepmother!.

Posted 1 year ago #
dazzlingboy - Member

+1 for the oil filled heater in the room. Our main heating goes off at 10pm so we have the oil heater on a timer from 10pm to 6am set to 16 to keep the temp ticking over. Doesn't seem to add anything significant to the elec bills either.

Posted 1 year ago #
mildred - Member

Oh yeah, dummies. I forgot about those.

the 4 year old has only just given hers up (begrudgingly and under threat of bad teeth from the Dentist), whereas the little lad, who is 3 on New years day has never touched one, and got a bit pissed off when we tried to introduce it to get him off to sleep.

Posted 1 year ago #
beamers - Member

After a year of the Beamlet only sleeping for a couple of hours at a time, she was breast fed, it came as a welcome relief when she started sleeping through the night.

She's 20 months now and has only just started to sleep for a couple of hours in the day time.

She eats like a horse (mostly) but I am amazed that she doesn't wake up after 14 hours of kip absolutely starving and narky. She's happy to play for bit before she tucks into her Weetabix.

Everyone of them is different.

Posted 1 year ago #
clubber - Member

Ah dummies - great on the one hand as they immediately settle mini-clubber but crap in that if he wakes in the night and doesn't have it, he cries so I have to get up and give him it back.

We've told him that Santa's coming at Xmas and will turn all his dummies into toys so that'll be the end of it as they'll all be gone. He seems fine with the idea now though whether it'll really work when it comes to it...

Posted 1 year ago #
ballsofcottonwool - Member

12 degrees and your radiators kick in, do you lot live in caves, Have you heard of insulation?

Posted 1 year ago #
GrahamS - Member

Like I said, it's cold in the nursery:

Posted 1 year ago #
carbon337 - Member

I think 12 deg is canny considering it was -11 outside this morning.

So the insulation is doing a good job since it was only 18deg when it went off at 21:00 and stayed at about 14 overnight.

Cavities & loft insulation and double glazing.

Posted 1 year ago #
gecko76 - Member

Agree with the oil-filled rad in the bedroom, and keeping the rest of the house warm-ish for the middle of the night. We got a Gro-egg which helps you keep track of the temperature really easily as it changes colour. The wee one's only twelve days old and seems happy anywhere above 16 degrees.

Posted 1 year ago #
GrahamS - Member

I think 12 deg is canny

Would you want to sit about in your underwear with your tits hanging out in 12 degrees?

(tho granted if your missus is from Newcastle then she'll be well used to it )

Posted 1 year ago #
anagallis_arvensis - Member

we got a gro egg too, it recommends between 17 and 21 I think. Have the heating on much more than we used to, TBH it's too hot for me!! he's only 3 weeks though, hopefully he will man up soon!!

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