I vaguely recall that last time there was a hosepipe ban it was still ok to use a hose to clean your bike.
Was this true and is this also the case this time round?
Anglian Water BTW.
Cleaning loads of mud off an mtb is a PITA with just a bucket.
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Using Hose to clean bike during Hosepipe Ban
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Yeah. I do too. Don't five a fek about the ban TBH.
I could fill a bucket with water and throw half a dozen of them over the motorbike, or I can use about a third of that amount giving it a spray with the hosepipe (Trigger spray, so not constantly running)
I can use the hose on the car, or take it to a carwash and use 100 times that amount perfectly legally.
Hosepipe bans - More about power hungry eejits telling people what they can or cannot do than actually, god forbid, saving water.
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£1000 fine potentially though, and this time around people are being actively encouraged to 'shop a neighbour'
. I'm bloody pee'd off too. As PeterPoddy says, a correctly employed hose will use far less water when washing a car than having X amount of buckets flung over. I wash my car a lot (and then spend countless hours claying, waxing, polishing, hoovering and generally titivating it, but I'm just sad like that) but according to Southern Water I'm not going to be able to use a hose again this side of Christmas if I don't want to be hauled up in court and relieved of a bag of sand.All this said, a fairly thorough internet searching session has failed to turn up a single case of any individual actually being successfully prosecuted for contravening a hosepipe ban, but there's a first time for everything.
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surely if there is a hosepipe ban you can just brush the dust off?
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Cheers, just looked at the Anglian Water legal stuff and there is no mention of bikes so may just crcak on: http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/_assets/media/prohibition-of-hosepipe-and-other-water-uses-2012.pdf
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But Jam bo it chucked it down here yesterday and my daughter had an mtb race in the evening - bike was caked.
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what about a dirtworker?
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jambo
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I think the spirit of the ban would cover washing your bike, so I personally would be using a bucket and hang onto my £1K
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ventanarider - Member
what about a dirtworker?Now thats a good idea.
Bugger, I sold mine because I brought a house with an outside tap.
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what about a dirtworker?
It has a hose and is drawing water from a container - the rules don't permit that
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surely if there is a hosepipe ban you can just
brush the dust offLeave it out in the rain?FTFY
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Rain butt for the DirtWorker?
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Rain butt for the DirtWorker?
the DirtWorker doesn't comply with the regs
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My interpretation is you are ok with a dirt worker. I position mine under a trickling tap for cleaning the car and the bike.
I do think the main issue is people watering gardens with the tap running endlessly! That isn't to say someone won't shop you with a hose going to wash the bike or a car. Regardless of the validity of your argument.
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Pressure washer connected to a water butt
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Pressure washer connected to a water butt
And piping run underground to fill it from the mains, job's a good 'un.
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And piping run underground to fill it from the mains, job's a good 'un.
:D, almost got that setup. 25mins of pressure washing my path the other night only used 1/4 of the water butt so not that worried about running out. That and there being no hose pipe ban here :D.Posted 1 year ago # -
That isn't to say someone won't shop you with a hose going to wash the bike or a car
See, that's the whole thing isn't it? WHO exactly is going to catch you? If it just some random passer by, it's your word against theirs....
And I've not seen any job adverts for "Hosepipe Wardens" recently.....
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I use one of those garden pressure sprayer things, no hosepipe ban here but no outide tap
Bit of a PITA but it works.
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you can legally use a hose/pressure washer to clean paths and patios
Just make sure you're bike is on the path
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I vaguely recall that last time there was a hosepipe ban it was still ok to use a hose to clean your bike
+1 wasn't there an email from someone at a water company saying go for it? Any got the link?Posted 1 year ago # -
Dear Thames Water,
I use a hose pipe to syphon petrol out of people's petrol tanks.
Is this banned?Regards,
Mike Rhyme of ThweakPosted 1 year ago # -
or take it to a carwash and use 100 times that amount perfectly legally
Well, no. Car washes that recycle water (as many do) are allowed to keep going, one's that don't, aren't.
Ignoring hosepipe bans - More about petty eejits who rabidly object to being told what they can or cannot do than actually, god forbid, making any real point about wider issues with saving water.
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25mins of pressure washing my path the other night only used 1/4 of the water butt
How to connect pressure washer to water butt - can't make the current connection fit - what are you using?
I have 4 full water butts, maybe I should sell it on across a soaking wet Surrey, the irony...
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Just say you didnt know about the ban. You dont watch the news and dont buy newspapers. They can't enforce a fine if they cant prove you knew about it.
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Just say you didnt know about the ban. You dont watch the news and dont buy newspapers. They can't enforce a fine if they cant prove you knew about it.
Ignorance is no defence.
Washing the car or bike needs a bucket of water and a watering can to rinse it all off.
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Also, tha ban defines "health or safety reasons” as including:
(a)removing or minimising any risk to human or animal health or safety; and
(b)preventing or controlling the spread of causative agents of disease;I'm sure the forestry comission would endorse the cleaning of your bike under "b"
all that nasty fungus innit
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IHN - Member
Ignoring hosepipe bans - More about petty eejits who rabidly object to being told what they can or cannot do than actually, god forbid, making any real point about wider issues with saving water.
On the contrary. The overwhelming sentiment is one of frustration at a lack of common sense on the part of the relevant water companies.
Outlawing the use of a hosepipe for purposes of tasks like bike or car washing but happily condoning the filling and tipping of buckets, when the former method actually uses far less water than the latter, is ludicrous. I'd be astounded if each and every one of the water companies involved hasn't had this reasoning pointed out to them from numerous quarters, yet they resolutely refuse to budge or give any leeway. They base their argument against hosepipes on the assumption that Joe Bloggs cleaning his car will leave the hose running at full blast throughout the process. I never do this and I can't think of anyone I know that does.
A caveat on the legislation that hoses used for washing cars or bikes (or any other desired application) must be turned off between actual periods of use is all that is needed.
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For the N'th time on here
The ban prohibits cleaning a private motor-vehicle using a hosepipe
motor vehicle
geddit
m-o-t-o-r
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A caveat on the legislation that hoses used for washing cars or bikes (or any other desired application) must be turned off between actual periods of use is all that is needed.
Surely it would be better to change the legislation to say that, for safety reasons, you can clean the windows and lights of motor vehicles, with a bucket. But that's it.
There's a shortage of (mains) water, and having a shiny car or bike is not a priority. If you want to clean your car or bike from your own stored supply, go for your life.
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mjsmke - Member
Just say you didnt know about the ban. You dont watch the news and dont buy newspapers. They can't enforce a fine if they cant prove you knew about it.
ransos - Member
Ignorance is no defence.
Correct. Ignorance of a given law is not admissible as a defence to prosecution.
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I can't think of anyone I know that does.
think you are right there - i can't think of anyone i know that does that
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The legislation, as batfink says, allows for cleaning with a hose pipe under H&S regulations.
If you keep your bike indoors, and on the ride you just happen to accidentally ride over some doggy-do, you should be allowed to clean your bike with a hose under these regulations.
That's my excuse anyway.Posted 1 year ago #
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