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Flow - are you allowed out at weekends?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 7:39 am
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Why would he want to go out, other than to the library? Weekends are the perfect time for sessioning "Mastering Mountain Bike Skills" by Brian Lopes.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 8:03 am
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It's a good book to ride the sofa with


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 8:06 am
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I went along with my wife and kids. We all ride, to varying levels, but none of us were any good at jumping. A decent session with Tony any we were all significantly improved, to the extent that Mrs F was clearing the tabletop by the end, something I didn't expect to see. Better yet, we were all thoroughly enjoying it, despite the torrential rain.

Tony's not a 'pro' in the sense that he has no coaching badges, isn't a racer, and uses no complex theories to try to explain what he wants you to do. That said, he uses simple instructions, and after years of doing things wrong, and wondering why I was such a clumsy oaf, I can now approach and land jumps without problems. I've read magazine articles and books, but had never been able to translate that into ability on the trail.

Thoroughly recommended. And I'll certainly be back there in the autumn.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 8:26 am
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😆 sooooo easy


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 9:39 am
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Nothing better to do?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 9:45 am
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As one of Tony's mates I know a bit more about what goes on behind the scenes, and we've had bike companies falling over themselves to give him stuff. He's now coaching some higher level xc race people and some of his younger riders who he's been coaching for years are now getting hooked up with pro-sponsorship contracts. None of which Tony would ever make a big deal about because he's not that kind of bloke.

I might add that a big (and I mean really big) US bike company wanted to put Tony on a bike deal last year, and he turned them down as he didn't think it was a good fit. Tony isn't a pro in Flow's terms because he doesn't want to be.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 9:54 am
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Yeah plenty.

Clocked up over 100 miles on the MTB last week, had a few fun sessions at the jump and pump track, got out on the road bike a few times, but then what would I know about riding a bike 😆

Edit: I'm not knocking Tony or UK Bike Skills, just winding these bunch of couch potato wannabe MTB'ers up.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 9:55 am
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just winding these bunch of couch potato wannabe MTB'ers up

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We reserve the right to suspend the accounts or remove the posts of anyone we consider to be a predominantly negative contributor to the forum.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 10:10 am
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just winding these bunch of couch potato wannabe MTB'ers up.

It funny I cannot see any anger or wind up, just a bunch of people calmly telling you to go away. Anyway carry on and you'll get sent away.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 10:46 am
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It funny I cannot see any anger or wind up, just a bunch of people calmly telling you to go away. Anyway carry on and you'll get sent away.
Let's hope so.

This thread has reminded me that I really must try and get some coaching.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 11:29 am
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Yeah plenty.

Clocked up over 100 miles on the MTB last week, had a few fun sessions at the jump and pump track, got out on the road bike a few times, but then what would I know about riding a bike

Edit: I'm not knocking Tony or UK Bike Skills, just winding these bunch of couch potato wannabe MTB'ers up.

Wow, that must've made you feel [i]really [/i] clever 🙄

Let us know when you reach adolescence. You might need help getting through it.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 11:48 am
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I had coaching from jedi, I enjoyed it, I ride noticeably better now (friends have noticed the difference) and enjoy my riding more because of that. Money well spent.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 11:56 am
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Flow - Thanks.....that's a compliment coming from you! 😀


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 12:08 pm
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Edit: I'm not knocking Tony or UK Bike Skills, just winding these bunch of couch potato wannabe MTB'ers up.

post hoc ergo propter hoc innit


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 12:10 pm
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Try drinking out of a glass backwards CaptJon


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 12:13 pm
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Damn, you lot have no sense of humor, or is it the way I write it?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 12:14 pm
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Have you considered: you. just. ain't. funny ❓


 
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I don't think it's the way you wright it 'flow', i think its the fact that you keep writing such stupid and wrong statments.

I have never had any coaching from Jedi but i have considered it and after reading all the praise for him in this thread it has made me more likely to do it in the future.

I consider myself a pretty decent rider already. I race dh, xc, gravity enduro and pretty much anything else that involves a stop watch and wheels and i generally do pretty well in these events.
But there is nothing wrong with seeking help from someone with jedi's knowledge and experience to improve even more.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you have never been on any coaching days and so your opinion on this subject is worthless so it's for the good of all that you go and do some rad skids or general gnarly riding and read Mbuk, yes i imagine you are there target demographic, a proper douchebag


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 1:33 pm
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A discussion i had with Bullheart this weekend.

Some people fuelled by hype and media promotion think nothing on spaffing hundreds of pounds on a bike/product thinking it will make them a better, faster rider and when new five hundred pound 140mm forks don't quite do it, they sell them for 250 and buy a new set with a further 10mm, maybe even a new frame, brakes, wheels..the list go's on..

In this world, it's thought easier to buy a material product that's considered right to improve your ability in lifes adventures and in some cases that's certainly true.

How many riders on bling bling sex wee machines, have been out ridden on trails, by someone on a shonky old HT?
They have two options to change this IF they wish to..Buy a better bike/component...well that's not worked? Or be a better rider and learn better technique, change bad habits. How you go about gaining that knowledge/ability is up to the person.

I take it the person who say's they can learn it all from the internets, watches pron to improve his performance as a lover, as opposed to those who pay for great tuition from those who ARE great lovers.

Shameless plug.[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/uk-bike-skills-a-lesson-with-jedi/page/2 ]WWW.UKSEXSKILLS.co.uk[/url] 😉


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 1:43 pm
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How many riders on bling bling sex wee machines, have been out ridden on trails, by someone on a shonky old HT?

Me..

It was in morzine, my first time there, ok I was on my giant nrs with 1.95 tires and crap magura julies, but a pair of scottish blokes on early 90's canti braked no suspension rockhoppers flew past getting massive loads of air and basically being rad.

But I've maximised my chances of it not happening again by having skills training and a sex wee bling machine..


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 1:59 pm
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Yawn


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 2:02 pm
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I think we should all accept now that Flow is a tool and is trolling! He clearly has no idea and probably rides like a 3 year old with stabilisers but he's going to learn as he bought a book.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 2:15 pm
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Try drinking out of a glass backwards CaptJon

pmsl


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 2:33 pm
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(Mr MC posting from her account)

I disagree with MC about trolling.

Flow has been what the americans refer to as a douche, has been roundly (and politely) called out by the STW collective, and is now trying to play the "oh it was troll, look at my smiley face" defence.

Does the Lopes book teach you how to backpedal?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 3:27 pm
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I know, I will post some vids of me riding, and you lot post yours, then we will see who needs tuition.

Bearing in mind this is 2 years old, and I'm a hell of a lot better now after reading the book 😆


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 3:50 pm
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can we not just compare scars and then see who can wee the furthest?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 3:56 pm
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No obviously not, after calling me shit I would expect you to prove that you lot are better, which I would expect to be pretty easy if you have had tuition from a "pro".


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 3:58 pm
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can you quote where I said that? I said you cannot learn kinesthietic skills as easily from a book as from doing - see you read that and yet you have forgotten it mmm interesting.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:06 pm
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I was talking to [b]you lot[/b] as a collective. If you had read the post properly you would have seen that. No wonder you need tuition.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:07 pm
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you could do with keeping your feet on the pedals more, and all that stuff at ukbp is pretty easy to ride


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:09 pm
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Can someone explain to me why flow has posted a video of Tinker Juarez?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:09 pm
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I can't believe how ignorant some people are - either that, or then trying to play it off as an wind up.

IMO, you are never too old or too experienced to learn something. I've been riding and riding well IMO for 10 years, yet jedi revolutionised my riding in four hours.

Not only during conversation did he humbly admit he himslef learns something new every day, he demo'd some of those skills on his 'shore for me to see.

In my years, I've never met a "teacher" like Jedi - he lives for what he does, practises what he preaches and gives you a feeling of pure faith in his abilities - and then you get assimilated to do the same with a noticable difference ie:

Singletrack run no 1 = 19 seconds. Run no 2 (after 5 mins of advice and help) 14 seconds. Proofs in the pudding......


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:13 pm
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I didn't say it wasn't easy to ride, its the only vid I have of me riding anything half decent.

Awaiting your vid 5lab


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:15 pm
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Flow have you got a logic deficiency? You came on here saying coaching was a waste of time, and now you are saying that we all need tuition, so which is it to be? I think most people on here who have been to coaching admit that they need coaching, that's the point of the thread. No one has asked you to have coaching, indeed you don't seem to want it so I don't get your presence here..


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:16 pm
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Singletrack run no 1 = 19 seconds. Run no 2 (after 5 mins of advice and help) 14 seconds. Proofs in the pudding.....

Something to do with knowing the route?


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:17 pm
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Toys19, I said you could learn it all from a book or the net, thats the point. Clearly you should have gone to Specsavers.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:19 pm
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Flow I don't give a damn how good you think you are, I don't think anyone else does either.

Yes indeed you did say you could learn it all from the net, but then you said we needed tuition, do you not see the logical contradiction there?

Has anyone else bothered to report this monkey to the mods, I think perhaps they might listen if you all hit the report button. I've only done it twice on this thread so come on lads and lasses lets take our ball elsewhere so that flow cannot play with us any more.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:19 pm
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so we've gone from the Troll Defence to willy waving in a couple of hours...

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Posted : 25/07/2011 4:20 pm
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I read Jack Nicklaus book when I was 12 and I'm still waiting to win my first major. Obviously, if the internet had been around then it would have happened by now.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:21 pm
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So you can call me whatever you like, but I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Ahhh I see. And when I ask for you to back up your riding with a simple vid you start hitting the panic button.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:22 pm
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I was talking to you lot as a collective. If you had read the post properly you would have seen that. No wonder you need tuition.

oh well in that case when i said you I did not mean YOU either 🙄


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:22 pm
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i enjoyed that vid. nice one. good feet in most turns 🙂
the tweak will go over more if you rotate the inside hand around the grip to get it flatter


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:24 pm
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No don't get him banned.

He's here to provide a feeling of importance for those who think he's a douche bag.

Alternatively, he's making his own opinion known whilst still promoting UK bike skills.

If people keep reporting posters every time someone fights their corner right or wrongly, we'd end up with out the characters that make this place what it is and also feed the trigger happy mods.


 
Posted : 25/07/2011 4:24 pm
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Ahh you are allowed to have an opinion, but every single poster on this thread does not want to hear it. Think of it like this, we are sat at a table in pub talking, you turn up being a moron and we all decide we don't like you, we ask the barman if he would allow us to continue our interesting conversation without fear that someone who every single won of us does not want present, can carry on interjecting with his moronic negative statements.

Hopefully the barman will oblige.

Sharki - I'm all for free speech, but he doesn't have an opinion he's just shit stirring. I love a good argument but this isn't an argument its just a pillock being negative and contrary.


 
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