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  • Tory voters – happy with your choice?
  • grum
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    Serious question.

    TheSouthernYeti
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    Yes. I think that on balance they’re doing a far better job than anyone else could at the moment. I’m honestly surpised at how well Osbourne is doing as I was concerned he was the weak link but now he’s shining.

    fuzzhead
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    TSY – you’re missing the 😉 surely? 😉

    grum
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    Pleased by the double dip recession then?

    TheSouthernYeti
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    Fuzzhead – in these austere times I was happy to do my bit and give up emoticons.

    Grum – I just ask myself… what would labour do? Then I chuckle.
    Personally I’m not feeling any thing like a recession so I’m not really sure what you’re on about?

    ohnohesback
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    Boris Johnson?

    dan74
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    As it was labour who got the country into this mess 🙄

    wrecker
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    Considering the (lack of) alternatives?
    Do I think they’ll leave the economy in better shape than they found it? Yes
    Do I think they’ll leave the country in better shape than they found it? NOPE
    Who will I be voting for next time?
    None of the above. I’ve come to the conclusion that voting is pointless.

    Klunk
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    Personally I’m not feeling any thing like a recession so I’m not really sure what you’re on about?

    got to love the “i’m all right jack” tory attitude.

    MrWoppit
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    dan74 – Member
    As it was labour who got the country into this mess

    Peyote
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    I voted Lib Dem, Tory by any other name these days. Gutted with the systematic dectruction of all things socially aware and encouragement of all things profit orientated.

    Would Labour do any better? Haven’t a clue.

    I’m with Wrecker on the “pointless to vote” angle, feel powerless and disappointed.

    TheSouthernYeti
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    got to love the “i’m all right jack” tory attitude.

    Eh? I’ve worked hard to get where I am. Not really come from much but made the right choices, sacrificed most of my twenties studying for degrees and professional qualifications. It was hard but there was nothing open to me that isn’t open to everyone.

    lowey
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    I didn’t vote.

    Zulu-Eleven
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    No, they promised us a bold policy of rolling back the state and swathing cuts in public services.

    Two years in and they’ve barely got rid of anyone.

    ahwiles
    Free Member

    exactly.

    lots of people aren’t happy with the government because they’re cutting too much.

    lots of people aren’t happy because they aren’t cutting enough.

    the tories could be cutting loads of stuff, they really do seem to holding back a bit (or a lot, depending upon your point of view).

    hora
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    New Labour left us with -£1,000,000,000.

    The Tories however is like letting Captain Francesco Schettino look after the helm of our country.

    I, for one will be voting them out Ciao pronto!

    grum
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    I come from a Labour supporting background, but have been massively disillusioned with the New Labour era, and swore I would never vote for them again. I have also bought into the idea that ‘they’re all the same’ etc.

    I am genuinely shocked though at the pure self serving awfulness of this government.

    Eh? I’ve worked hard to get where I am. Not really come from much but made the right choices, sacrificed most of my twenties studying for degrees and professional qualifications. It was hard but there was nothing open to me that isn’t open to everyone.

    What about the vulnerable in society, likes all the disabled people losing support, benefits etc? Same opportunities open to them? I’d have more respect for Tories if they could be honest about the fact that it’s a philosophy based on selfishness.

    Solo
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    Personally I’m not feeling any thing like a recession so I’m not really sure what you’re on about?

    This ^^, very much.

    Never really can understand the constant whinging from the lefty losers.

    Grum.
    Stop whinging and change your F’in luck by doing something different instead of just sitting around whining.

    Would Labour do any better? Haven’t a clue.

    Without doubt, GB would have over-max’d the country’s credit cards by now and as a result we’d be paying more to pimco.

    WTF exactly, don’t lefty’s understand about:
    Money doesn’t grown trees, there should be a limit to how much we spend ?.

    Spending has to be brought to within our means, FFS.

    Gutted with the systematic dectruction of all things socially aware and encouragement of all things profit orientated.

    Right !, so your utopian ideal is a not for profit world, right ?.
    Thats soooo naive.

    PePPeR
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    I just can’t come to terms with how inept this government seems to be!

    It just shows you how much control new labour had over their party and the media, as they make the present incumbents look like a shower of shit!

    grum
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    Grum.
    Stop whinging and change your F’in luck by doing something different instead of just sitting around whining.

    My luck’s fine thanks, it’s not for lots of other people though. people you clearly DGAS about.

    WTF exactly, don’t lefty’s understand about:
    Money doesn’t grown trees, there should be a limit to how much we spend ?.

    Some people still have plenty of money. Selfish arseholes generally. You’ve proved my point about the politics of selfishness very nicely btw, thanks.

    scaredypants
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    blimey, half a page in and already I’e no idea who’s serious
    😯
    😆

    Solo
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    Eh? I’ve worked hard to get where I am. Not really come from much but made the right choices, sacrificed most of my twenties studying for degrees and professional qualifications. It was hard but there was nothing open to me that isn’t open to everyone

    Whoa !. Thats too close for comfort, very spooky.
    Cept for the degree thing.
    I didn’t go for one of those.

    But I started at the bottom, even homeless for a bit.
    I got up off my ass and got into providing for myself.

    Mattie_H
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    scaredypants – Member
    blimey, half a page in and already I’e no idea who’s serious

    True. But you get quite a clear sense of who is a self-absorbed and narrow-minded idiot.

    wrecker
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    It’s sad when the choice is made by who you hate least. I am not happy with a lot of what’s going one but a return to the Labour ways scares me to death.
    It might be time to do one to somewhere (anywhere) better. I’m not a fan of Britain any more.

    you get quite a clear sense of who is a self-absorbed and narrow-minded idiot.

    You certainly do.

    crispedwheel
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    Klunk – Member

    Personally I’m not feeling any thing like a recession so I’m not really sure what you’re on about?

    got to love the “i’m all right jack” tory attitude.

    This.

    CoolLesterSmooth
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    Shouldn’t that debt figure be £1,000,000,000,000 and going up by more than £100,000,000,000 every year.

    I don’t think there’s an alternative (and I’m originally from the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire).

    TeaBoyPaul
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    Didn’t vote for them and never would, but this latest shambles with the ‘fuel crisis’ just highlights their attitude of ‘looking after Number1’ and don’t worry about anyone else… What a bunch of utter ****s!

    Grrrr!

    grum
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    Wrecker, seriously tempted to leave England at least, though maybe not for the same reasons.

    Klunk
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    Eh? I’ve worked hard to get where I am. Not really come from much but made the right choices, sacrificed most of my twenties studying for degrees and professional qualifications. It was hard but there was nothing open to me that isn’t open to everyone.

    and to be followed up with the other tory cliche “I did all on my own”

    grum
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    Yeah totally self made. I bet all the members of the cabinet would say the same thing.

    We have very low social mobility on this country – it’s a very convenient myth for people to claim they came from the gutter and made it all on their own, it’s usually bollocks though unfortunately.

    Solo
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    So Grum.

    You’ve accused me of being selfish or whatever.

    I came from a terrible backround, on the absolute bread line.
    I clawed my way back into society.
    And you’re knocking me for doing something about my situation and not relying on the state to take care of me.

    UN-F’ING-REAL !.

    This is why I can’t stand lefty losers.

    wrecker
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    Wrecker, seriously tempted to leave England at least, though maybe not for the same reasons.

    But not entirely different reasons either. Desperation at a lack of political party who give you confidence that they’ll do the right thing?
    I know that you’re pretty far left and I’m centre politics but there must be a lot of people out there like either of us.

    it’s a very convenient myth for people to claim they came from the gutter and made it all on their own, it’s usually bollocks though unfortunately.

    Not all of us aspire to have “made it”. Just earning a pretty good salary is a success for me.

    andytherocketeer
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    Tactical vote (voted many ways, including my next door neighbour on my 18th birthday, but think it was Tory last time). Will vote anything but Labour, unless BNP or EDL stand a serious possibility of winning the seat. In that (unlikely) situation, I’ll vote for anyone, regardless of political persuasion, if they are the most likely contestant to prevent that.

    TheSouthernYeti
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    I love you guys. x x

    TandemJeremy
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    Of course there is an alternative – look to other countries – we are a low tax, low wage, low growth economy and have now tipped back into recession unlike other countries that tax more and have not cut.

    grum
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    So Grum.

    You’ve accused me of being selfish or whatever.

    I came from a terrible backround, on the absolute bread line.
    I clawed my way back into society.
    And you’re knocking me for doing something about my situation and not relying on the state to take care of me.

    UN-F’ING-REAL !.

    This is why I can’t stand lefty losers.

    You did something about your situation, well done. But you clearly don’t care about anyone else’s situation. Thats called being selfish.

    On current evidence it’s hard to see the Tory party as anything other then the party of the rich and the selfish. You are proving the point quite well. Again I’d have more respect if you could just be honest about it.

    clubber
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    TJ’s back and it’s like he’s never been away! 😀

    grum
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    So those that do support the Tories, how do you feel about their current fuel-buying advice? Perfectly sensible?

    Definitely not a cynical plan to divert attention away from the double dip recession and rampant corruption, and stir up anti union sentiment?

    soobalias
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    OP – you say it like there was a choice
    and you infer it makes a difference

    if Labour were not to blame for the mess the countrys finances are in, citing ‘global’ factors, then equally the tories are not to be critisized for the current tough time.

    the biggest danger comes from the current government not being able to clearly demonstrate that positive steps are being taken, in time for the next general election. Although current polls seem to indicate it is going to take a lot more than five years for the country to forget/forgive labour.

    druidh
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    grum – Member
    So those that do support the Tories, how do you feel about their current fuel-buying advice? Perfectly sensible?

    Definitely not a cynical plan to divert attention away from the double dip recession, rampant corruption, and stir up ant union sentiment?I’m sorry, but I’m not buying into that one. That would take a level of intelligence and cunning ….

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