SFB, it seems you had better stop riding all together - otherwise there will be no lakeland at all in years to come! What tripe! I wonder if the ancient cumbrians protested when the romans constructed high street, even after the industrialisation of the lakes - the old quarry trails that litter the fells don't seem to of had a detrimental effect to the long term flora and fauna.
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SFB, it seems you had better stop riding all together
but in fact I shall carry on as usual, on tracks which are largely unchanged over the years
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As said above, people who skid, widen trails by going round hard bits or shallow puddles, and moan about not being able to ride a section that someone else will clean easily. Basically riders who don't consider how the trail they're riding got there, and that someone might be going out of their way to fix and improve it for them. Might not apply to riders in Scotland or the Peaks, but certainly applies in places like Cannock and Bristol.
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edit - its no point continuing is it
TJ lost for words - is this a first ?
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Those who, at the mere mention of Llandegla in a subject title on here, have to be first to use the words 'tarmac, bmx, shite, Glentress is better' in their replies.
Bikers who when they first meet you say with a mutual friend, tell you how great they are and list all the places they have ridden.
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and list all the places they have ridden
isn't this just 'biking related conversation' ?
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Those who complain about walker while illegal riding on footpaths. Even if said walker pushes them off.
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while illegal riding on footpaths
it's not illegal, it's a tort, whereas assault is a criminal offence
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Mud Nazis
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simonfbarnes - however you view it you and the bogmakers with you are selfish in your use of trails. You do not consider those that may want to come after you only your ride that day. You have thatcherite view of bike rides, "theres no such thing as other mtbers".
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You do not consider those that may want to come after you only your ride that day
correct, I'm only responsible for me and mine. But I usually take the time to converse with or at least say hello to other trail users and the response is overwhelmingly positive
... and you shouldn't confuse my abrasive style with that of the club's other members, who are all nicer and more friendly than me
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TJ lost for words - is this a first ?
No - just given up talking to someone who wont listen.
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simonfbarnes - Thatchers child.
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I try and ignore him, seems to be the easiest policy.
He confuses making up his own mind with refusal to accept that anyone else has a valid point of view.
He claims to love discussion, but you cant discuss from a fixed viewpoint, you can only pontificate.
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It's hard to ignore him and the his boggy crew due to the damage that they do. He's an enviromental distaster.
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The problem with group rides is they go on regardless of weather and trail conditions. We've seen this happen in Calderdale with the deterioration of sensitive trails.
Local riders have a reason to preserve the quality of the riding so will adapt to the weather, if it's wet we stick to rocky tracks and keep off the peat. Groups don't do this and subsequently damage the trails.
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just given up talking to someone who wont listen.
I'm listening TJ, it's just that your arguments don't seem to apply to much of the terrain I ride
simonfbarnes - Thatchers child
that is very hurtful
but you cant discuss from a fixed viewpoint
I'm willing to change if proved wrong
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It's hard to ignore him and the his boggy crew due to the damage that they do. He's an enviromental distaster.
I think you're guessing, or do you have actual evidence?
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I used to really like his posts on here - I thought he was amusing.
He then decided to ride up Stoodley Pike in Calderdale on a sunny summer Sunday a couple of years ago with all his crew tagging along behind him.
I'm not so keen now.
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He then decided to ride up Stoodley Pike in Calderdale on a sunny summer Sunday a couple of years ago with all his crew tagging along behind him.
wrong, I have never led a ride including Stoodley Pike, it's always a local.
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simonfbarnes I know that you'll be fed up hearing about trail damage but there was a time when the climb from the ford to the Gate via the hairpin bend on Jacobs Ladder was all grass (I was young fit and good looking then). That's long gone now due to the amount of mtb traffic it gets (walkers use the steps near by). In the same way that parts of the Pennine Way are having to be surfaced due to boot traffic us mtbers must acknowledge the damage we do. We are human and we make a mess, it's how we respod to the damage that will keep us on the trails.
The Thatcher jibe should not be taken as to much of an insult, you did write "me and mine" after all.
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Chaps, this thread is falling into what we might call the "Simonfbarnes Pit" in which each post increases exponentially the probability that the answer to the Great Question of Life, The Universe and Everything is in fact "SFB". Before you know it you will be engaged in a detailed and ill-tempered argument about whether Simon is in fact autistic, Hitler or a pan-dimensional space-lizard with personal grooming issues and VPL while he goads you into putting forward ever more deranged theories about his ego. This is never a great use of bandwidth.
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us mtbers must acknowledge the damage we do.
I didn't say we cause no damage, but that TJ's dire predictions were unfounded (as confirmed by the park ranger)
The Thatcher jibe should not be taken as to much of an insult
no, it was funny :o)
while he goads you into putting forward ever more deranged theories about his ego
actually, it doesn't need much goading, it's pretty much free running!
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Bigdummy - that's it, sfb autistic.
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Riders at events who come screaming up behind you shouting "Pro rider coming through!". If they are that 'effing profesional they should be able to get past without all the abuse.
It's even worse when they come blasting past on an uphill section and then I overtake them on the down hill.Posted 3 years ago # -
that's it, sfb autistic.
I think there may be a higher level of intentionality...
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it's not illegal, it's a tort, whereas assault is a criminal offence
Illegal means the same as unlawful. A tort is, therefore, both: it's a civil, rather than a criminal, wrong. Assualt is both a criminal offence and also a tortious act.
I do believe SFB has just solved the big bang theory. Or created a black hole. Not sure which.
Anyway, back ON TOPIC, the primary things that annoy me about MTBers:
1. Faff. My god, just how long does it take to get you and your space craft ready for a couple of hours up a hill.
2. Eye contact. Or the lack of it. It may be because they all work in IT and already have borderline personality disorders, or it may also be that they'd rather asses your conversaiton value on the basis of how "good" your bike is. It's the legs, numpties - they're what get you up the hills.
3. Mountain biking. Apparently in some way a superior pastime than just "riding a bike" or "cycling".
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Everything about them annoys me!
I am the only person I don't get annoyed with, but even I can't tolerate myself now and again.
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When a lose-group starts becoming a clique.
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Illegal means the same as unlawful.
OK I was imprecise. It's not unlawful to be on private property, but if there is no right of way one is liable for damage caused to the ground etc, and THAT would be the tort. Also there is a possible question over the bike itself, which I believe is not held to be a reasonable thing for a person to have with them, unlike say clothes or a pram or a walking stick. I think this is moot, but for instance say a washing machine WOULD be unreasonable ...
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MTBiker having a go at IT people (don't look at my profile).
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When a lose-group starts becoming a clique.
This annoys me too. Losing shouldn't be elitist.
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Before you know it you will be engaged in a detailed and ill-tempered argument about whether Simon is in fact autistic, Hitler or a pan-dimensional space-lizard with personal grooming issues and VPL while he goads you into putting forward ever more deranged theories about his ego. This is never a great use of bandwidth. [:-)]
Says you. This sh*! is better that pro wrestling. I don't even own a, What do you call it ?, mountain bike?
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"I thought he was amusing.
He then decided to ride up Stoodley Pike in Calderdale on a sunny summer Sunday a couple of years ago with all his crew tagging along behind him.
I'm not so keen now"
Even if he were to have led a bike ride on a sunny summer day, why should that make you have a negative view?
"there was a time when the climb from the ford to the Gate via the hairpin bend on Jacobs Ladder was all grass .. That's long gone now due to the amount of mtb traffic it gets"
Its a (well publicised in the MTB press) bridleway, where do want people to bike ride? Being walled off it surely encourages not only the mtb traffic, but the rainfall of the hillside it cuts across too?
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there was a time when the climb from the ford to the Gate via the hairpin bend on Jacobs Ladder was all grass
erosion isn't always a bad thing - the bottom section of JL is more exciting as tumbled rocks than it would have been as grass, and I've already mentioned how it washed away the rubbishy sanitisation on Walna Scar (helped by the powered vehicles that were initially allowed to use it)
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