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  • The going rate for an MP's vote is now £100 million
  • wwaswas
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    That Teresa May certainly knows how to negotiate a deal. Not.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40403434

    futonrivercrossing
    Free Member

    That money tree is growing fast! 😉

    Murray
    Full Member

    Surely £10m each for £10 votes – sounds like a bargain!

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Surely £10m each for £10 votes – sounds like a bargain

    Eh?

    ctk
    Free Member

    Jeez what are we going to end up paying the EU? 😉

    miketually
    Free Member

    I might email my Labour MP to advise her to accept £100 million for the town in exchange for voting through the Queen’s Speech.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    So under Barnett that means extra money for Scotland and wales – IIRC 5 billion for Scotland, 2 billion for wales.

    Watch the press for the demands and then the wriggling from the tories

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Well, it was a sight cheaper than two new aircraft carriers….

    zippykona
    Full Member

    She is an enemy of the people.
    She and her cronies must be held accountable.
    The only people she can blame for her failings are us, the British people.After all, a massive majority voted for whatever shit storm she conjure up.

    We will soon feel her wrath.

    dmorts
    Full Member

    So under Barnett that means extra money for Scotland and wales – IIRC 5 billion for Scotland, 2 billion for wales.

    Seems that might not be true. From the Beeb:

    Sources close to the deal suggest the agreement may not affect the so-called Barnet formula – which governs the distribution of public spending across the UK nations – because most of the money will go to specific projects rather than general spending.

    Seems plausible… i.e. they’d try to avoid giving Scotland and Wales extra cash

    mudshark
    Free Member

    The Barnett formula is said to have “no legal standing or democratic justification”,[3] and, being merely a convention, could be changed at will by the Treasury.

    ctk
    Free Member

    But but but my constituency in Wales voted Tory! Why dont we get extra money! Not fair

    crashtestmonkey
    Free Member

    So £1bn is the price of hubris, and they’ve just given a display of how poor they are at negotiations. Bodes well 🙄

    mrblobby
    Free Member

    1 billion from less than 300,000 votes 😆

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    mudshark – Member
    The Barnett formula is said to have “no legal standing or democratic justification”,[3] and, being merely a convention, could be changed at will by the Treasury.

    That’s good, we are looking for a suitable opportunity to provide the publicity for another referendum.

    But what is this going to do to the Good Friday Agreement? And following from that Ireland has said it will veto any Brexit deal if it is unhappy about the GFA.

    So it looks like no Brexit deal because of a bad deal with the DUP.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    dmorts – thats how they will try to weasel out of it but Barnett is a mechanism for avoiding unfair spending deals and extra money for NI should mean extra money for Scotland and Wales – its all based on % of total spending

    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    isn’t it more like 150 million.

    To the gang that may have a slight history of ballsing up.

    (Explains the sneaky leak about it being 2billion to soften us up for accepting 1billion + the other odd half billion)

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    Mark Thomas: “‘We send the DUP £1bn, let’s fund our NHS instead’ hey let’s put that on the side of a bus.”

    quite.

    just5minutes
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    It’s a interesting to hear all the criticism coming from the Labour Party and that they would never dream of negotiating with the DUP or offer financial inducements in order to secure a coalition.

    Despite the fact they did exactly the same thing at the 2010 and 2015 elections.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7683450/General-Election-2010-DUP-now-being-courted-by-Labour.html

    dissonance
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    Despite the fact they did exactly the same thing at the 2010 and 2015 elections.

    Not sure if you have noticed but the Labour leadership changed recently? So the relevance of the previous elections is somewhat limited unless you quote Corbyn and co?
    Plus reading that article all Brown seems to have said is he wasnt going to reduce spending from previously agreed levels.
    So not quite the same thing as the Maybot is promising.

    I know it is hard defending the tories at the moment but you really could try harder.

    just5minutes
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    Not sure if you have noticed but the Labour leadership changed recently? So the relevance of the previous elections is somewhat limited unless you quote Corbyn and co?

    Ah ok. Yes. Current Labour Party is “different” to old Labour Party despite the fact most of the MPs are the same.

    Where were Corbyn’s and McDonnell’s voices in 2010 and 2015 then? Curiously there doesn’t seem to be any record of them speaking out against Labour discussions with the DUP back then.

    Cougar
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    Ah ok. Yes. Current Labour Party is “different” to old Labour Party despite the fact most of the MPs are the same.

    Where were Corbyn’s and McDonnell’s voices in 2010 and 2015 then? Curiously there doesn’t seem to be any record of them speaking out against Labour discussions with the DUP back then.

    Whether or not Labour with our without Corbyn was in talks with the DUP, the BNP, Kim Jong Un or Kim Kardashian, what difference does it make beyond Internet Point Scoring as to what was said seven years and three elections ago? Is “he did it years ago” justification for doing it today?

    They’re all politicians, most of them will change their minds and their allegiances as often as their socks. Two years ago May was a staunch Remain campaigner and a year ago we were led to believe we were going to send more money to the NHS. That all went well, didn’t it.

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    What Cougar said.

    Pointing out how shitty someone else was 7 years ago doesn’t excuse shitty behaviour now.

    wicki
    Free Member

    How the hell can this be legal?

    dissonance
    Full Member

    Curiously there doesn’t seem to be any record of them speaking out against Labour discussions with the DUP back then.

    Yes because the press are well known for reporting them accurately arent they?
    Since you want me to go searching how about you go and find where the Maybot is on record condemning the tories vote Labour and get the SNP ads.

    Or just stick to the fact that Brown simply said he wasnt going to cut spending and didnt offer them billions on top plus any old policies the DUP fancied.

    spekkie
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    imagine saving all that money denying benefits to people in need and then blowing it all to prop up a government in need.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Desperate Tories fanboys trying to compare zombie Maybots morality deficit to something Gordon Brown didnt do 7 years ago…… 😆

    ctk
    Free Member

    Wow! Labour did a deal with the DUP in 2010 and 2015!? The mind boggles!

    Oh wait, they didn’t actually do a deal- so what was your point Tories?

    tjagain
    Full Member

    He ( Ian Blackford) also claimed that the Scotland secretary, David Mundell, had categorically assured the SNP that Scotland would be in line for “Barnett consequentials as a result of the DUP deal”.

    As we should be given how often we have been assured that Barnett is not going to be changed.

    5 billion please. Enough to dual the A9 and a nice pay rise for the public sector

    pk13
    Full Member

    They better spend it fast if we get another election the torys might ask for it back.
    So tidal Eco power this time?

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    They’re just setting themselves up for criticism, they seem to be handing the opposition rocks for throwing at them.

    ctk
    Free Member

    All those “new” Tories in Scotland are going to feel stung!

    Northwind
    Full Member

    Remember kids, what Labour did in the past is way more importany than what the Tories do today and tomorrow

    Or rather, what Labour didn’t do

    BigButSlimmerBloke
    Free Member

    I take it the missing Magic Money Tree has been found then?

    ninfan
    Free Member

    All those “new” Tories in Scotland are going to feel stung!

    Why, because ‘they got something we didn’t get’?

    Isn’t that what all you lefties call the politics of envy?

    what Labour did in the past

    You’re forgetting, that wasn’t Labour, it was the evil Red Tories…

    ctk
    Free Member

    What is this other dimension you speak of ninfan?

    lazybike
    Free Member

    Democracy at it’s worse..

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Democracy at it’s worse..

    I reckon Germany, 1933, probably tops it to be honest

    wobbliscott
    Free Member

    Feels a bit wrong, but it is no different to, and pales into insignificance compared to the half a trillion pounds worth of bribes in Corbyn’s manifesto.

    ChrisL
    Full Member

    Ruth Davidson should threaten that the 13 Scottish Tories will vote against the Queen’s Speech unless the Barnett formula is applied to the DUP bribe.

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