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29 posts & 17 voices | Started 1 year ago by D0NK | Latest reply from Saccades

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D0NK - Member

Ours just died, so for kick off how do I get rid of the old one? Dump at council tip, go to scrap man for a few quid or pay the shop I buy the new one from to take it away?

Next load size, a similar make and model washing machine one rated for 6 and one for 9 Kg, will the 9Kg have beefed up motor and bearings to go with the extra load or will they just bung in a bigger drum ergo it will die quicker?

Who's the best manufacturer of the cheap end of the scale? I won't be shelling out >£500 for a miele.

Posted 1 year ago #
mt - Member

Sad to here that your washer has bust, don't dispair save the bits and go break a world record and be a world champion like Graham Obree. We replaced ours with an AEG, not bad because I can program it. Have not managed to get British Cycling interested in my new bike design as yet.

Posted 1 year ago #
mastiles_fanylion - Member

Or get it repaired? We decided to and paid £70 instead of £500+ (integrated washer/condenser drier required).

Posted 1 year ago #
Cougar - Member

The dryer half of my Hotpoint WD died recently. I took it to bits and annoyingly got to the point of knowing exactly what was wrong with it but unable / unwilling to force my way into a sealed unit. Hotpoint wanted ~£100 to send a man in a van, which was steeper than the £35 in parts it'd have cost for me to do it, but crucially they'd then give it another 12 month warranty. So, that's what I ended up doing.

Posted 1 year ago #
valleydaddy - Member

your local council should be able to collect if from you they may charge for this.

Or depending upon where you buy the new machine from they may remove your old machine for free too - worth an ask.

you local scrappy will probably give you nowt for it but gladly take it of your hands.

depends how old it is but I would try the repair route too

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

Pretty sure it's 10 years old, I reckon motor has gone on it. Doubt it's worth repairing at that age.
I can get the old one to the tip myself was just wondering if it there was a disposal charge for it or alternatively if it was worth owt.
Seen a few around the £250 mark so I'm not paying silly money, just wondering if the larger capacity were worth the extra.

Posted 1 year ago #
The Fopster - Member

Siemens often offer 5 yr warranty on much cheaper machines than Miele - might be worth it. I had one but moved and sold to our buyers after couple of years so hard to say much re longevity, but seemed better built than most cheaper end stuff. Got to buy new machine again soon and will get another as can't afford Miele.

Posted 1 year ago #
gusamc - Member

by 'motor gone' do you mean bushes worn out ?, coz that's an easy fix

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

by 'motor gone' do you mean bushes worn out ?
Hmmm, do you mean the electric brushes? or some bush/bearings or neither? when it tries to spin the drum it just goes nrrrrrrrr (electrical buzz type noise) but no movement. When your spin the drum by hand you get a tsss tsss noise (bit like a catching disc rotor) Fills, emptys and continues through the washing cyce fine just the drum doesn't turn. Any way of knowing without cracking open the motor unit?

that's an easy fix
erm how easy? and are bushes standard or model specific? It's an ariston, will dig out the model number.

Posted 1 year ago #
gusamc - Member

you need to get on google etc and get a manual for your machine.

if you can take the lid/back off and work out where motor the brushes caps (which it may or may not have) should be easy to spot (possibly two sticky out bits at 180') that the end caps pop off or unscrewed
(get the manual)

alternatively go ebay - <model> brushes, they are modelish specific

anyway in a lot of cases they are carbon on a spring (spring pushes against cap and keep carbon in contact with motor - wear out down to spring - no circuit - no motor ..)

deffo worth some basic checking, there might be sparks, or a smell if they're gone
this lot are useful - http://shop.ezee-fix.co.uk/index.html

also worth googling on model and symptons

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

Thanks gusamc will have a look into that.

Posted 1 year ago #
Junkyard - Member

awaits phone call

Posted 1 year ago #
globalti - Member

FFS if you think the motor has gone, probably all you need to do is replace the brushes; they wear out and get shorter and eventually they don't make contact with the commutator any longer.

Might not even be necessary to remove the motor, Identify the brushes, unclip them, go to local parts supplier, fit new, sorted for another 5 to 10 years.

Posted 1 year ago #
Pieface - Member

Candy are good for cheap, Bosch good for expensive, although the door on ours is a major let down (broken twice in 4 years, weak design but not complicated or expensive to repalce).

Posted 1 year ago #
Cougar - Member

Top tip,

"Brushes" aren't actually brushes, they're carbon sticks, like a pencil lead. They wear down, like a pencil lead, and they're brittle as you like, like a pencil lead.

To wit; when you compress the spring to fit them, don't then let go triumphantly so that they twang into the commutator and shatter. Like a dropped pencil lead.

Posted 1 year ago #
takisawa2 - Member

Hotpoint WD here, went for 9kg drum as damn thing is always on. Fecked up last winter, but was frozen valve that split. Unfortunately it soaked the pcb & that had to be replaced. I did the valve myself, but as it was only 6 months got Hotpoint out re: the pcb. Hotpoint service was a joke. Totally crap. Machine was out of action for 3 months in total. Had to buy a s/h machine to get us through.
I didn't know washing machines had a USB port...the engineer had it hooked to his laptop to fault find.
Also, is common these days to completely enclose the drum in a sealed moulding. Whole drum has to be changed if bearings are shot.

My best mate has a few rental houses & swears by a cheap make called Beko. Reckons they have been spot on.

Just a long shot, check for something daft like a stuck bra-wire...!!!
One came adrift from the wifes bra & got jammed making a right racket.

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

Any ideas about the catching sound I mentioned when I spin the drum by hand? Is this another indication of knackered brushes or is it more likely to be bearings gone? Which Presumably will be a fair bigger job

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

Oh dear takisawa, was looking at 2 hotpoint models. I've got a big beko fridge freezer, almost as old as the washer, maybe look at their washers (after I've looked at brushes )

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

OK I've taken the brushes out, looks like they are at the end of their travel, ie springs are fully extended so I guess it's those at fault. The scraping sound has gone with brushes removed too so guess the bearings are probably ok, but resumaby there was some sort of contact with brush/motor so not 100% sure.
Trying to source some brushes locally now.

Posted 1 year ago #
resisted - Member

Literally bought a new one last week. Picked one up from John Lewis. It's a JL own brand, but it's made by Bosch (like their own brand microwaves are made by Panasonic) but they have a deal running at the moment, paid £400 for a £529.00 machine, they also delivered and removed the old one at the cost of a tenner. Plus, when it comes to electricals, you'll always get good back up and extended warranties with JL.

I think with their current deal their cheapest machine is now £299

Edit: it's a 7kg load (but there are only 2 of us), but has pre-programmable cycles and a high speed quick wash at 30 degrees which is very handy.

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

cheers resisted may look at that if brushes don't work out.

Posted 1 year ago #
dawson - Member

i've just ordered some brushes from Partmaster.co.uk - hopefully they will turn up pretty quick

Posted 1 year ago #
Twin - Member

If you decide to get a new one and need to dispose of the old one, you could just leave it in your garden in plain sight. Did that with my cooker, it was gone within 24 hours. Scrap metal is good money to some!

Posted 1 year ago #
TheTompy - Member

If you fancy a new Hotpoint or Indesit with free delivery, free removal of your old machine, and at staff prices then let me know.

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

Scrap metal is good money to some
Hmm, how come it's good money to some but not me? poster above said scrapman probably wouldn't give me anything for it.

Posted 1 year ago #
bassman - Member

As twin said
Leave it in front of house and it will vanish,
Just like the tooth fairies.
Stuff left outside ie.old radiator gone in less than six hours gas guy hadnt got back to yard before it went.
we were at home and idnt know until later in the day.

Posted 1 year ago #
resisted - Member

haha, I used to do that at my first flat, had a communal bin area for all the houses and flats in the area that backed onto a main road. Used to leave so much stuff out there, usually because I didnt want it in the house and I thought to myself "I'll just put it by the bins, take it to the tip at the weekend", never had to! old fridge, tower fan, even a shitty old desk that I removed from the flat by literally destroying, all gone!

Posted 1 year ago #
D0NK - Member

Not the brushes grrr. Fit some new ones same nrrrrrr sound no movement and with the back off it I can now smell the mild burning that may have been there all the time. Back to my original burnt out motor diagnosis, ah well.

Posted 1 year ago #
Saccades - Member

You should remove the drum and weld it to an old steel car wheel.

It makes an ace outdoor log burner.

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