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49 posts & 32 voices | Started 5 months ago by trout | Latest reply from chunkypaul

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trout - Member

The original Spidereyes has been on tour around the UK since it was hacked out of a lump of Ali with a blunt axe

and I was not happy with the beam from the MK2 so started the 3 yesterday .
I did start to take pics along the way but got a bit carried away with the butcher job and tool abuse so forgot some stages

Apologies to engineering types for the blatant misuse of tools
and no fish were harmed in the making of this light .

job started with a 2.5 inch square bar and the powerhacksaw

Which got a little way in and broke the blade so had a good hour+ with the elbow hacksaw

Then on to the rotary table ( Oh how I wish I have bought a bigger one )
getting it all clamped up seemed to take forever.

Got well and truly into the machining so not many interim pics

just after this pic I had a good vacuum up before the whole job was buried under chips.

A bit more exercise to warm up in the cold workshop with some more sawing to remove some metal

then back in the mill to make more chips loving the carbide hogging out tool makes for fast removal of waste .

it is not quite as I had in my head but when you mill a little bit badly you then adapt to how it evolves.

here is the thing ready for a dunk in the caustic after a whole heap of rubbing with abrasives and hand files to get the final shape.

and having a fizzing time in said nasty stuff

not quite as exciting in the desmut nasty stuff just seems to sit there doing nothing .

heres my ano set up in the shed

and the thing cooking in the acid those fume control balls make a large difference to the breath ability in there too need a few more though

all assembled for testing

OK a bit of a why did I not like the beam from the mk2
it had the asphericals and one lens for fill in close by but as they were all pointing at the same place it was only the spill from the lens that shone down on the ground this was evident when I covered the eyes up .

so for this one I have gone back to 2 xpgs in parallel like the original spidy then in series with the 2 xmls
and have angled them down a few degrees so as to have the long beam and the short beam .

I have not lit it up in the dark but here is a shot to show what it is like on the wall

Posted 5 months ago #
pop larkin - Member

Wow that looks proper good- what weight is it?

Posted 5 months ago #
althepal - Member

Loving it. Those look great.

Posted 5 months ago #
bruneep - Member

Bravo.

Doffs hat to the eccentric engineer type person.

Posted 5 months ago #
MarkyG82 - Member

Its amazing how much waste material there is. Not a criticism, just an observation.

Are the asphericals really that spotty? Thinking of a single XML for the noggin.

Alternatively, are these going into production?

Posted 5 months ago #
flashes - Member

ooo that's nice..........

Posted 5 months ago #
user-removed - Member

Impressive stuff there! And to think I used to get stick from the wife for having photographic chemicals knocking around.... Will show her this thread next time the darkroom gets set up

Posted 5 months ago #
muddyfox69 - Member

Looks fantastic. Once the baubles and tinsel are on, should be perfect.

Posted 5 months ago #
Pauly - Member

Looks great. Loving my upgraded Hope Twin LED btw. Been out for a couple of rides with it and it's more than enough imo.

Posted 5 months ago #
trout - Member

Wow that looks proper good- what weight is it?

Pop Larkin
its not for the wimpy of neck , its dead on 150 grams.
but very low profile.

MarkyG82 yes without the fill in leds it is far too focused to use
on its own

and yes to your second question in a limited quantity .

beamshot it was no fit to send a dog out but the dog and I ventured in to the woods for some testing

beam shots I only hed it set on 2 levels max and level 3 on the 3 amp flex table.

First impressions were good and as you can see in the photos there is a small dark slot between the beam and the flood so it seems I am out by a degree or 2 and for perfection it would need lifting to blend with the aspherics beam .

in real life this was not so much of an issue and it was barely noticeable when moving along .

looks like 2 lights and I like it from the first walk when the damn rain stops I will see if I like it as much on the bike .

Posted 5 months ago #
rOcKeTdOg - Member

I'm avaliable for testing duties

Posted 5 months ago #
jedi - Member

oh i can test them out for you if needed

Posted 5 months ago #
epicyclo - Member

Maybe you need to start casting your casings

Thought you might enjoy this site.

Posted 5 months ago #
trout - Member

Cheers Epicyclo

I did once try smelting aluminium and it worked great
but the casting was not for me .

Posted 5 months ago #
trout - Member

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjKdLJecUn4

Posted 5 months ago #
trout - Member

Posted 5 months ago #
ChunkyMTB - Member

you've put on weight, too many mince pies

Posted 5 months ago #
racefaceec90 - Member

jeepers.how much for one? please say you are going to sell them (seriously i am interested) just buying a new guitar/amp first p.s no 5 is alive

Posted 5 months ago #
Elfinsafety - Member

Is so beautiful.....

Troutie; can you makes possibly tiny urban light for me please? does not in any way need to be mega-powerful like those naughty things, I'd probbly get nicked for having something that bright in London, and I live near an airport so don't want any planes crashing nearby.

Needs to be tiny, very light and clip on and off handlebars. Bright enough to illuminate the odd bit of unlit canal path, but controllable enough to dim very quickly if someone's coming the other way otherwise they'll crash into the sea. And a flashing mode is essential.

Posted 5 months ago #
Andituk - Member

That's the best looking light I've ever seen, that's awesome

Posted 5 months ago #
belugabob - Member

Troutie,

I've always been impressed by your lights but, for the helmet in particular, prefer the all in one designs produced by Exposure.
Do you have any plans to produce lights with a built in battery, in order to avoid the flappy cable situation?
They really don't need to be as bright as some of the lights that are around at present - about 500 lumens for the helmet and 1000 for the bars should do it.
They would have to be relatively quick release too.

Regards,

Bob

Posted 5 months ago #
LeeW - Member

You've decapitated Wall-E!

Posted 5 months ago #
organic355 - Member

Looks nice, reminds me of this guy:

Posted 5 months ago #
Ming the Merciless - Member

Very pretty.

Posted 5 months ago #
organic355 - Member

Ummm, my pic was supposed to be of Wall-E, not sure what happened there!

Posted 5 months ago #
flashes - Member

Now that's more like it..........I might even like that more than the origional.............

Chris, I've emailed re the origional..........

Posted 5 months ago #
sambob - Member

That orange one is awesome, want one. How much if you make it?

Posted 5 months ago #
PeterPoddy - Member

How can it have a square beam pattern? How? And 2 separate pools of light?

Looks lovely, but that beam pattern is no good at all IMO

I already have a Trout light. It's a nice bit of kit, very bright, but it's too focussed as well. Not anywhere near like that though.

Light makers (All of them) need to get away from the lumens race and make something with a more useable beam pattern. There's so much light wasted with pretty much every light on the maket right now, because they're all just using the same piddly little circular reflectors. Stop trying to make them more powerful and smaller, and give us a beam like a car headlamp on dip - i.e. one that shines all the light at the floor and doesn't waste 1/3 of it up in the air with a circular beam pattern.

Sorry. Moan over. Flame away.

Posted 5 months ago #
shortcut - Member

This looks interesting, intrigued by the beam and disagreeing with Pete!!

Pointing at the floor is useful but if you are leading a ride you need to see the stuff around you too, otherwise we would be very lost! Peripheral vision is very useful, just ask anyone with Tunnel Vision!

Posted 5 months ago #
devs - Member

Any you need testing on the puffer trout I'll gladly oblige!

Posted 5 months ago #
trout - Member

PeterPoddy
whilst I agree to some extent with some of your rant i wouldnt be making 5 proto lights if I was not sure of its performance .
for a helmet light it has a great beam the focused square beam is awesome on the trail
but it is too focused and narrow close to the bike. which is why it has the other beam near

get in touch with who ever has the one doing the rounds and have a go it might alter your HO

this one is a machine shop pre production housing which I am testing before giving the go ahead for a small batch

Devs might take you up on that. when is it

I believe it to be unique as a bike light with nothing like it anywhere it is in my opinion the best helmet light ever
but then I also like Marmite

Posted 5 months ago #
bruneep - Member

but then I also like Marmite

Posted 5 months ago #
gingerss - Member

I made a light once with a hood that made sure most of the light went down on to the trail. I kept hitting branches at head level.

Trout - the light looks ace.

Posted 5 months ago #
TandemJeremy - Member

PP - I like a very focussed spot beam for a helmet light - I wouldn't want those extra lower ones on that light - just the nice tight spot.

Its different for a bar light but for a helmet light all you need is it to light up the bit in your central vision

Posted 5 months ago #
fadda - Member

This looks like it might be the helmet light I'm looking for! However, need to get the charger sorted for my liberator first - Troutie, did you get my mail about the replacement charger you sent me?

Posted 5 months ago #