I think I meant lots of people were saying he was crap and a waste of money. Is that still the opinion ? Just an interesting debate really ..

they certainly didn’t take Leicester apart

they were murdering them and the goals were coming however they arrived. Agreed the three set pieces goals , and against leicester, is unusual but they were going to score no matter what and leicester were hanging on

I think I meant lots of people were saying he was crap and a waste of money.

Indeed. As a City supporter, still think it’s a lot of dough for a bit of showboating and the occasional good game/goal. Also posted last season that Yaya was a lazy, strolling player so I think my radar isn’t too faulty.

Firstly congratulations to Arsenal, although they can never undo their dire record against Jose that was a fine win. Why a team with defensive frailties would compound those by buying back Luiz I’ll never understand. Pogba, after last week when all the reports saying he was anonymous a MoM performance, good for him its always tough to have the big money price tag. Strange times as Jose drops Rooney and Mata gets a lot praise. Leicester do look stretched by the CL.

Spurs ticking over, not enough at the moment

Arsenal and City look to be the main title contenders as I think we all suspected.

A bit worried for my team Swansea,when the manager of your team starts apologising too players that had a hissy fit when you substituted them!!.

What the hell has happened to West Haaaaaaaaarm since last season? Southampton have just absolutely battered them!!! And they’re 3rd from bottom! Same manager. Same squad. Players like Payet, who were brilliant last year, were just completely anonymous.

The curse of the new stadium? But they’re equally as awful away!

It’s great to see Southampton shrugging off Koeman’s departure. As a Spurs fan I hope West Ham choke on the stadium.

Reality checks for West Ham and Leicester so far this season, the hammers fans are particularly quick to turn on their team.

I am enjoying the disaster unfolding at West Haaaam.

Horrible club, awful pimp and pornographers owners, completely corrupt deal to get that stadium for basically nothing and their violent scum fans.

I’m so glad that stadium move hasn’t worked.

Agreed the three set pieces goals , and against leicester, is unusual but they were going to score no matter what and leicester were hanging on

I think Leicester (and Stoke) are being hit by the new directive about holding at set pieces. I am all for it as the “defending” that the likes of Huth, Morgan and Shawcross have practiced over the past few years did need to be challenged.

Re. Sterling he did actually have some pretty decent games last season particularly in the Champions League. It was not really surprising given the ludicrous vitriol aimed at him by the media and sheep like fans that his form dipped.

It was great to see his confidence to score the third on Saturday. It would have been so easy to try to play in Aguero but he backed himself, remained calm and delivered a great finish.

Shaping up to be an interesting season. City’s game against Spurs next week should be a cracker.

agreed as to why they are struggling on set pieces but we were going to score as they were being outclassed at the time

Apparently some bookies now have Liverpool as 2nd favourites to win the league. I’ll have whatever they’re having, thanks barman.

@weeksy, how much did City cough up for Sterling? I was quite happy to see him go!

I think Leicester (and Stoke) are being hit by the new directive about holding at set pieces. I am all for it as the “defending” that the likes of Huth, Morgan and Shawcross have practiced over the past few years did need to be challenged.

I haven’t actually seen this directive in print, just heard they are cracking down on it. Frankly it had become ridiculous, just a wrestling match at every set piece and has taken them far too long to do anything about it.

I’m glad the like of Liecester and Stoke are suffering due to the new directive, Liecester were completely taking the p*ss at times last year and getting away with it.

West Ham couldn’t happen to a nicer team. Although Bilic is a better coach than their current placing.

Spurs ticking along nicely, best start in 51 years. The Man City game is shaping up to be an interesting encounter and hard to call the result.

I think Bilic will be the new Martinez, flattered by his first year taking over the disciplined side of his predecessor and giving them some more freedom, but as that discipline slips into history his own coaching will be found short.

Spurs ticking along nicely, best start in 51 years. The Man City game is shaping up to be an interesting encounter and hard to call the result.

I haven’t seen much Spurs football this season, but if I was a betting man, I’d suggest that they will attack City and get picked off. It will depend on a few factors, but I’d call a 1-3 result right now.

Would prefer 0-0 though! 🙂

I think Bilic will be the new Martinez, flattered by his first year taking over the disciplined side of his predecessor and giving them some more freedom, but as that discipline slips into history his own coaching will be found short.

Thats a big call MSP! I think there are a few factors at play here leading to a loss of confidence, but he will turn it round one way or another. Only to mid table though.

this tickled me from the Mash!

😆

Leicester looking good. Got them for the win, and Slimini as first goalscorer 🙂

Craig David with a screamer

http://www.skysports.com/watch/tv-shows/soccer-am/news/10600750/watch-craig-david-hits-a-beauty-in-the-soccer-am-game-headers-and-volleys

Watching MOTD has just summed up what is up with Engerland. Troy Deeny scored again. He’s been banging them in for fun. But they ask why he doesn’t get an Engerland call up?

The answer from Shearer ‘well obviously Sturridge is in front of him..”

Why?!! WTF?!!! Sturridge is made of balsa wood, and is now a peripheral player at Liverpool, who doesn’t warrant a start, because he’s shit, and the only reason he got a game today was because Lallana went off injured. So he came on, got booked for blatantly diving, then did what….?

But he’s first choice because he plays for Liverpool (ocassionally), not Watford

Sturridge isn’t shit though is he. Out of form yes , but I agree Deeny should be in with a shout

Klippity doesn’t seem to think he warrants a place in his starting 11, and has been critical of his attitude. Doesn’t look a happy bunny, does he? 😆

Yet he’s still being seen as an automatic starter for Engerlands upcoming qualifiers. Its the same attitude that saw Jack Wilshere, who hadn’t played 90 minutes of football all season, to the Euro’s. When Danny Drinkwater, who’d started every game, and been outstanding, for the team that won the premiership, stayed at home.

Is it any wonder they’re so comically awful?

Anyway… back to proper football….. today should be interesting. Which United turn up? No doubt we’ll make hard work of Stoke.

And City v Spurs should be an absolute Belter. Can’t see anything other than City walking it this season, but if anyones going to keep them in check then Spurs have to be in with a shout

Fair play to Spurs they outplayed City and deserved their result. The own goal was a bit unfortunate but I cannot argue that City deserved anything from the game.

De Bruyne was a big miss although hopefully when Gungodan gets up to speed we will not rely on him so heavily.

Spurs look very strong even without Kane. The pace they played at was impressive although some of their players are unnecessarily narky (especially when 2 up).

Shaping up to be a memorable season.

Burnley were absolutely bloody robbed tonight. There’s no way the Arse deserved 3 points from that game. Burnley had the measure of them and the better of the chances. And the goal, with the final ‘kick’ of the game was a blatant handball, and offside anyway. There’s no way it should have stood!

Ahem….I think Burnley were very negative and as a result didn’t deserve anything, but what an odd goal! Was waiting for the whistle that never came.

I don’t think it is fair to call teams like Burnley negative, they play the only tactic available to them, defend deep as a team and hope to nick a goal from a set piece or a bit of luck. It is up to the teams at the top to break them down.

I thought city missed Nolito as much as DeBruyne, he hasn’t got as much plaudits as he deserves so far. Even from the players available to him, I don’t think Guardiola got his team selection right, would have preferred Gungodan and Sane to start, and the other full backs would probably brought more energy to the game.

I don’t think it is fair to call teams like Burnley negative, they play the only tactic available to them, defend deep as a team and hope to nick a goal from a set piece or a bit of luck. It is up to the teams at the top to break them down.

This. Play an open game against Arsenal and they’ll take you apart. So you do what Burnley did. Stop them playing their preferred game and try and hit them on the counter, and maybe nick a set piece. Its up to Arsenal to come up with an alternative. But they showed they had no Plan B. When Burnley had the ball I didn’t see an Arsenal player attempt a single challenge all match. There was no pressure at all.

A pretty poor Arsenal performance, with some truly woeful passing, certainly didn’t deserve the 3 points. That goal should never have stood. A clear handball AND offside.

Same for United. Stoke set up the same way, defended well, if a bit desperately at times, soaked up all the attacks, and scored with their only shot on target all match. Burnley did the same to Liverpool a few weeks back.

You know what you’re going to get from these teams. Its rubbish to watch. But its effective.

Great finish from Kos and 3 points was never In doubt 🙂

Wasn’t great from Arsenal but oh well , they won. Unlike Utd of course who played ‘beautifully’ and dropped two points . Spuds did well, good to see City drop points

Re tackles , not true really

27.7 -Tackles per game Arsenal average this season (11th in the League)
25 – Tackles Arsenal attempted against Burnley
18.7 – Tackles Arsenal win per game on average this season
18 – Tackles Arsenal won against Burnley

Tackles table :
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/total_tackle?se=54

Of course it’s all damn lies and statistics

This. Play an open game against Arsenal and they’ll take you apart. So you do what Burnley did. Stop them playing their preferred game and try and hit them on the counter, and maybe nick a set piece. Its up to Arsenal to come up with an alternative. But they showed they had no Plan B. When Burnley had the ball I didn’t see an Arsenal player attempt a single challenge all match. There was no pressure at all.

Yeah of course, we see this every week from the lower level teams and their work rate, organisation and desire is all very admirable, but what if everyone played like that. It doesn’t make much of a spectacle and you can understand how teams run out of ideas trying to get through such well organised defences.

Anyway, we got away with it and the table is looking much healthier this morning…albeit with the Spuds above us! 😳

An England manager has eventually been brave enough to drop Rooney, thank heavens for small mercies.

lads done, legs have gone, will blow hot and cold like usual for the next few years, and probably take a big pay day year in china/usa, another one that needs to go to Bournemouth on loan

Let’s do this !

Wot no Wayne!?!

‘kin ‘ell almost a goal down. lucky boys

Why is watching Ingerland underperform somehow enjoyable!!!!

Good of ITV to covet Sunday league footie here

Life is too short to watch Engerland qualifiers, so I just flicked on the ‘highlights’ at half time.

Woeful! As always!

Sturridge’s Tom Daley impressions really are cringeworthy, aren’t they? He really should start coming on in his Speedo’s

good to see England fans , or in this case laurel and Hardy, getting behind the team

Your loyalty and support helps the team no end

Could have been 0:3 already

Make that 0:4!!!!

I’m not watching it, occasionally pop over to the Beeb sport site. It’s coming across there like it’s pretty dire in Slovenia and the Scottish goalie is preventing a telephone numbers score line.

How about player ratings based on their body art?

FFS !

You got your trumpet, playing the great escape, in your Union Jack boxers, showing off your Winston Churchill tattoo JY? 😆

Blimey! This lot really are shite! Funny you should mention Laurel and Hardy though…..

Just waiting for them to wheel the piano on