the 3 (maybe 4 ) evil bastards sharing depraved images of babies and children .civilised society or not the bloke had already been on the sex offenders register one of the women working at a nursery just get rid of them for everyone's sake.

Yeh good shout, we should get rid of cripples too.

ANd the terminally unemployed / smackheads whilst we're at it

and oscar winning, ex-pat film directors on the run in Europe.

sorry gang…i agree with oldfart.
and i would love to be the executioner.

Oldfart yes

put them down and stop the grouth of there gene pool

Bang on Oldfart.

At a bare minimum, chemical castration. I dont give a flying **** about their rights… they dont deserve to live. Fookin defects, human defects.

I hope to hell they get tortured in prison.

wtf is up with them? Im with OP if they want to live like animals put them all on an island they can live like animals and murder and abuse each other, its the very least they deserve.

So why do we let these people ? live ?

Because we are more civilised than them.

Why does everyone assume I was being sarcastic? I'm with the OP.

Granted the terminally unemployed may be debatable but I'm sure there's some who offer nothing to society, as do a number of junkies.

I also agree, I also would add a load more to the list as well. Time for a clear up.

El-bent – Member

So why do we let these people ? live ?

Because we are more civilised than them.

people like you make me very angry…and i do not get angry very often.
if you son/daughter was abused by some perv, how would you feel then.

they should die for what they do. moreso when done to kids.

people like you make me very angry…and i do not get angry very often.
if you son/daughter was abused by some perv, how would you feel then.

blah, Blah, bloody, blah. Don't try and get the state to sanction your bloodlust.

El-bent –
just out of interestwhat do you deem a good punishment???

el-bent

if you son/daughter was abused by some perv, how would you feel then.

how about a answer

yer and old people, they just waste our medical supplies with all their ailments and block us from doing anything as they are always in the way. Bloody wing a lot too.

they should die for what they do. moreso when done to kids.
I wouldn't disagree, but from the practical point of view, given the string of miscarriages of justice that have happened in the past and will continue in the future, what percentage of innocent people being killed by the state would you find acceptable so that the guilty can be killed?

I think we should slaughter the kids instead, then we wouldnt have this problem

Ian Munro
like i asked elbent………
what would you do??

they don't need punishment, they need help and rehabilitation.
Punishment after the event serves no purpose except to fuel a culture of blame and revenge…….

hilldodger – Member
they don't need punishment, they need help and rehabilitation.
Punishment after the event serves no purpose except to fuel a culture of blame and revenge…….

shame on you……
you soft lefty fool.

I'm stunned that anyone who put these people on a par with someone who is umemployed or disabled.

But it does explain why the country is in the state it is 🙁

just out of interestwhat do you deem a good punishment???

I think they should be locked up. I also think we should try and understand what makes these people behave in such a way.If we understand the causes or triggers which lead them to do these things we could also hold the key to undoing it or better still preventing it from happening again.

History has taught us that execution does not resolve these types of conditions, sickness or whatever else you want to call it. If you would like your children to be safe from people like this then we need to prevent the next person from committing this crime again as well as preventing these people from doing it again.

Not really Ton,
retributive punishment would not help prevent further crimes of this nature.
The 'people' who commit them are undoubtedly repulsive beyond our comprehension, but the prospect of 'death if caught' would just raise the thrill factor of what, to them, is just a big game.

BillyWhizz – Member
I'm stunned that anyone who put these people on a par with someone who is umemployed or disabled.

But it does explain why the country is in the state it is

this was not me.
but people who commit sickening crimes against babies should die for what they do.
nothing anyone say's would make me change my mind.

'm stunned that anyone who put these people on a par with someone who is umemployed or disabled.

But it does explain why the country is in the state it is

Yes. quite.

they don't need punishment, they need help and rehabilitation.

I hope that is a trolling post.

The prospect of "death if caught" would also be a good incentive to get rid of any witnesses – permanently.

Surely the use of the death penalty in (some of) the USA teaches us that this sanction does not lead to a decrease in crime?

but people who commit sickening crimes against babies should die for what they do.
nothing anyone say's would make me change my mind.

But why limit it to babies ?

Executing them has got nothing to do with providing a deterent. Its more like a Risk assessment. Remove the risk.

What we need is some sort of 'Minority Report' type justice for these people

perpertrators of abuse tend do have been victims in their youth (so i hear)

should they be put down because they were fuct up at an exceptionally vulnerablle time when their social and sexual personalities were developing

and fwiw
my aunt tried to kill herself a few years ago after suffering a breakdown, after therapy had unearthed abuse in her past
the police realised they had been looking for her for some time as a co-witness against the abuser(a helper at her local church and friend of the family)
her mental health has deteriorated she is now in and out of institutions and my cousins have had to grow up watching their mum fall apart

i really dont know what id do if i ever met the *%^! in a dark alley

lowey – Member
hope that is a trolling post.

No, just my opinion – some think that society should kill those whose actions are deemed unacceptable – others that, hard though it may be to comprehend, there is no positive outcome for a society that has institutionalised killing as part of its justice system.

lowey – Member
Executing them has got nothing to do with providing a deterent. Its more like a Risk assessment. Remove the risk.

Something is only a 'risk' before the event, not after.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK_3I0MiAP8&feature=related
would this make you happy, ton et al?

No, just my opinion – some think that society should kill those whose actions are deemed unacceptable – others that, hard though it may be to comprehend, there is no positive outcome for a society that has institutionalised killing as part of its justice system.

You're wasting your time with these people Hilldodger.

Executing them has got nothing to do with providing a deterent. Its more like a Risk assessment. Remove the risk.

How about life imprisonment? Oh no, you'd rather have someone killed because it will cost you money imprisoning them.

So tell me, who are the "evil bastards" here now?

my aunt tried to kill herself a few years ago after suffering a breakdown, after therapy had unearthed abuse in her past

Mmm…. if I'm reading that correctly, it appears to be an example of how counter-productive therapy can sometimes be.

Sometimes the brain/mind blots memories out for very good reasons – survival. And unearthing them can unravel a multitude of suppressed feelings, emotions, pain, etc etc. Sometimes it is best to leave things alone.

It is also a good example of why therapy should always be left to qualified therapist (although they too, can make mistakes), and not be entrusted to DIY self-appointed ones.

Sorry about your Aunt kimbers 😐

thanks ernie she is coming to my wedding in a week and her current meds seem to be ok so hopefully she wont bug out!

it has changed my mind about therapy, but i still dont agree with the death sentence, chemical castration works for me

I'm with the string em up brigade!

In this new 'immoral society' there is no such thing as punishment for
the sicko's of this country, only temporary protection from the public(further victims) and(or) Rehabilitation ha ha.
once they're sick, they're generally sick for life. Put em down.

So tell me, who are the "evil bastards" here now?

Good question !!
perhaps those who put their careers and material wealth over the health and happiness of their children and leave them in the 'care' of strangers?
perhaps those whose zealous defence of 'personal liberties' allows abusive pornography to be easily transmitted over the internet ?
perhaps those who seek to redress violence with more violence without asking 'why?'

I admit I don't know the answers but I do know that there is no deterrent effect on violent crimes by having the sanction of a death penalty – we surely all want to prevent these horrors not glorify them with ritual death ceremonies……