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Skis....what to get?
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Posted 8 months ago #
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well are you driving/flying to serre che?
Can you stretch to Nice? There is someone you may want to talk to
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Waxing and base preparation of skate X-C and downhill skis is identical. The French squads in three disciples have combined their efforts on base preparation which goes some way to expalin the excellent result across biathlon, downhill and X-C. They took their own machine with them to the Olympics.
It's a ski thread, it was bound to end in willy waving, go back to my first quote on ski preparation a few pages back and you xon't go far wrong if you want your ski to be performant and easy to ski.
Have you seen the latest machines NZCol. The old Wintersteiger that just gave a flat base with two possible finishes is a thing of the past. Why would you want an "edge high ski". Edge high is considered a defect solved by grinding the base then dropping the edges by between .5 and 1.5° and then sharpening to taste. Always put edge-high skis through a stone, or bin them.
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Unless you holidaying a whole bunch just rent your skis and look for a higher performance rental.
Most resorts (certainly North America) will rent the latest and greatest ski's.Invest only in a well fitting boot that will last you for 10 years. A set of skis will be out dated and the next fun concept will be out next year.
Plus, if you buy a groomer ski and get a big snow day, you're stuck with what you have. At least with rentals you can go and swap out your groomer ski for a pow cheater ski and have a blast!Only 1 week a year and there's no chance you'll get any continuity anyway of your own skis, so you may as well let some one else do the service, storage and not have to bother travelling with them.
/2c
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Just found this and, as by far the best skier here, thought I'd chip in
Unfortunately, too much sense has already been talked. I've used hire skis for years now and It'll be a long time before I consider buying skis again, now that I've ceased dominating the world cup circuit.
(anyone want a pair of salomon x-mountains ? PR8 I think, mismatched bindings, hand-serviced by the greatest living technician)
Posted 8 months ago # -
So which one of you lot are going to tell us you are also better than Danny Hart?
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Danny who?
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There are rumours that Chemmy Alcott is going to be on Strictly come dancing this weekend. Shame it's not Aksel Lund Svindal. Swoon.
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Julia Mancuso!!
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I do believe that Julia and Aksel are a couple.
Posted 8 months ago # -
Juan, we fly in to Turin and transfer from there.
Work may well be taking me to the sun-kissed Riviera in Spring, though....
All well avec toi, mon vieux?
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Okay I'll have Lindsey Vonn, you two can have Mancuso and Alcott
Actually I'll take Lara Gutt, I change my mind
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Have you seen the latest machines NZCol. The old Wintersteiger that just gave a flat base with two possible finishes is a thing of the past. Why would you want an "edge high ski". Edge high is considered a defect solved by grinding the base then dropping the edges by between .5 and 1.5° and then sharpening to taste. Always put edge-high skis through a stone, or bin them.
Yes i have seen them and worked on them as well as the Wintersteiger and Montana factory spec machines as well (We actually had a Montana factory machine in our NZ shop). There are a myriad of base combinations available depending on how you dress the stone and what speed you dress it at.
I said you didn't want an edge high ski, the only ski you will ever be able to turn efficiently is a completely flat ski and grinding it flat doesn't work, filing it flat first, then structuring the base on the stone and then finally applying a bevel to the edge is how you should do it. At that point you have a well structured ski, that will take wax, which can have proper turn initiation and a nice edge bevel. Structuring edges and mashing skis through a machine with sparks everywhere is a totally pathetic way to prepare skis (not to mention quite expensive on stones). The heat generated on the stone in a heavy grind (to try and flatten it) makes the base expand with the heat (even with a very high emulsion content in the hopper), then when it cools it tends to contract and make the ski 'rail' again really badly. So base file them and then prepare them properly. I'm not even going to bother willy waving and listing why I believe it should be done like this but all i'll say is we prepared all our skis like that and kept them like that all year and I consistently fouind it easier to teach people on those skis than railed skis. We did blind tests where we used the same ski (model, age and days use even) prepared 'normally' i.e. ploughed through the automated wintersteiger that we never used, and one that had been hand flattened (takes about 5 minutes a pair) then given a light pass to structure it. Even the reverse camber skis should be done like this. Try it, you'll be surprised.Posted 8 months ago # -
Let us know what you decide on OP!
Posted 8 months ago # -
I shall indeed return here! Am planning a mammoth day out to the Hemel Alp as an initial tester day.
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Fast ski's would be good, or those to help you avoid wolves
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those to help you avoid wolves
Volkl Grizzlys then? I reckon a grizzly would have a wolf.
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Going back a good number of years I had some missiles (MSLs) they would have done too - am not up with the latest skiis I'm afraid.
Or ski sticks like Roger Moore had in The Spy Who Loved me may help.
Wolves could be at Serre Che or Le Grave (do they have any pistes there yet?) too from the map of Haute Alpes
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