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  • Skills Advice – Cutties
  • beano68
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    Trying to maintain corner entry speed and I’m braking before hand and loosing speed and momentum 😥 so I’m trying to perform a cuttie or however its spelt 😐

    Any tips or advice as I can’t friccin the rear to loose traction at all even when I put my weight on the front and leaning into the direction I’m going

    I will be going on a coaching day sometime but I’d like to get this manoeuvre sorted as I’m loosing so much flow and speed

    Ta

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    so a skid?

    beano68
    Free Member

    A skid/slide without touching the rear brake

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    the kinda thing you only see in ‘edits’, not racing…

    beano68
    Free Member

    Hmmm

    RobHilton
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    Trying to maintain corner entry speed and I’m braking before hand and loosing speed and momentum

    Stop trying to go fast – improve your cornering technique at a lower pace and the speed will come.

    Slow down to go faster :mrgreen:

    nedrapier
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    the kinda thing you only see in ‘edits’, not racing…

    That’s what I’ve always suspected. Looks cool, probably feels pretty good too, but is it just a more skilful version of a back-brake skid?

    I#d guess for better speed and momentum through a corner, you’re better off maintaining traction, rather than attempting to lose it. Concentrating on trying to flick the back out is probably messing up your flow rather than improving it.

    molgrips
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    Seems to depend on the weight distribution. On my Salsa it’s so perfectly balanced all I have to do is steer sharply and the back steps out just the right amount. I think on my Patriot I have to get my weight further back, yank the front round and sort of use my hips to push down and away from the turn, with a bit of a twist of the body.

    It has to be pretty loose ground to work though. As above, it’s something that happens when you get a sharp corner right on loose ground – it’s probably not a technique to aim for in every corner.

    nedrapier
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    Slow down to go faster

    Reminds me of a memorable cornering session on the dual track at Chicksands – someone suggested a no-pedalling run. No pedalling means you’ve got to keep your speed. You start slower too, so you need to work speed out of the berms. I got quicker and quicker and lower in the berms with every run.

    You’ve got a good marker about how well you do, because the last long corner points you uphill again – the further up you get, the faster you were going.

    I then decided to bam it up a notch and allow myself pedalling. Never managed to beat my non-pedalling best.

    jimjam
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    beano68 – Member

    Trying to maintain corner entry speed and I’m braking before hand and loosing speed and momentum so I’m trying to perform a cuttie or however its spelt

    Any tips or advice as I can’t friccin the rear to loose traction at all even when I put my weight on the front and leaning into the direction I’m going

    I will be going on a coaching day sometime but I’d like to get this manoeuvre sorted as I’m loosing so much flow and speed

    Ta

    That’s not a cuttie.

    nedrapier

    That’s what I’ve always suspected. Looks cool, probably feels pretty good too, but is it just a more skilful version of a back-brake skid?

    No. I think there’s at least three different things being discussed here.

    beano68
    Free Member

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDjem5RfuAI I’ll just keep playing around but your right @rob I’m probably going to fast into the corners

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