Yet travellers do manage to get insurance for their vans
I'm sure some do, as I said at the outset I was using this as an example, you could equally apply the same principle to the homeless. i.e. the legal system doesn't work very well because they don't have an address. I also made it very clear, not once, but twice that this was not about knocking travellers.
TBH you cannot attack an entire way of life and a people then ask us not to talk about the people you attack nor accuse you of attacking them
Where precisely did I do that? What I said was that the itinerant community, operate outside the law. They do. What do you think pitching up on someone elses land without permission is? That is their way of life. I'm not being judgemental about it, its a fact. There is also a contrary argument that they are forced to it by the shameful nimbyism that has resulted in the law being routinely broken by local authorities by failing to provide the requisite amount of pitches, but regardless, the outcome is outside the law. So before we go too much further could I just add that I live down the road from the site, and have close contact with someone who is involved, I do therefore have a slightly better than average understanding of it, and I have made no comment other than to say that its unlikely to go to court, which is true, everyone involved would acknowledge that. At this point in time the guy has not been charged with anything, and isn't likely to be as I understand it...... I mean does traffic law even apply off road, other than SORN?? Can you be charged with causing death by dangerous driving away from the highway? If so where does that leave racing drivers and the owners of circuits??
So when we are talking about assumptions and predjudices, may I suggest you take look in the mirror?
Its entirely typical of the PC brigade on here that you all do precisely what you are accusing me of. I have not at any time suggested that there will be a deliberate attempt to evade the law. In fact it had not entered my mind until konabunny started pompously accusing me of all sorts. Actually, I was coming at it from precisely the opposite direction, and if you knew anything at all about the tragedy, as opposed to imposing your own interpretation on it that would have been obvious.
What I am actually saying is that due to the way we operate our legal system travellers are forced into operating at best on the outskirts of legality and at worst totally without any protection from the law whatsoever, and that is a self evident truth, whether you like it or not. So the question is why do we persist with unworkable laws, and even propose new ones (spitting), which are self evidently not workable, as I made clear at the outset, this is not an anti traveller thread, I was just using a current news item to illustrate a situation where there are self evident failures. So stop being up yourselves and open your mind to thoughts that don't include being holier than thou all the time, you never know you might like it.
If anything what I am guilty of is assuming the best in people and not remembering that the opportuinity to tkae a poke at folk is rarely passed up on here.