Eventual method was:
– 5 seconds dribbling boiling water round the top of the seat-tube, Don’t use too much water, you might be doing this quite a few times.
– from the left hand side of the bike, stand on your right foot, put left foot in downtube/seatsube junction, left hand under the saddle nose like you’re about to do a bicep curl, right hand under the back of the saddle
– yank up and twist clockwise at the same time, I was using my left more for pulling up, and my right more for twisting – I did 2 or three jerks to get a quarter turn, then –
– twist saddle back to nose forward,
– repeat
– more water from the kettle when it gets trickier, (every 2 or 3 repeats)
It took me about 45 minutes, left me with quite a few blisters on my hands, but I got the ************ out.