I like nice looking riding kit, you don't, who cares.
Having ridden flat pedals for years on both bmx and mountain bike I stand by my too grippy comments. Fine when it's filthy wet or very rocky, but for a lot of riding I find I get more 'feel' from skate shoes. If you think that's 'stupid' then so be it.
I would imagine (never used them mind) that the 5.10s are not waterproof and probably get soggy and heavy once wet. There seems to be a gap in the market for a technical (ie stiff, water-resistant) shoe for flats. Also the 5.10 sole is great on pedals and rock (from my climbing days) but lethal on wet grass mud. So this shoe/boot would also need a sole with more pronounced heal block for grip off the bike.
i've got 5:10's and AM40's.
the 5:10 are a wider fit, but the sole has more flex , but better all-out grip.
the AM40's have a stiffer sole, same general grip, but it feels more plasticky. the sole pattern on the AM40 is good however , and pins slot in and stay in position due to the pattern's tightness.
5:10's are the safest bet if you're new to flats, but a seasoned flat user will manage on most waffle styled soles.
Oh, and 'what GW said' 
See how my skate shoes don't have enough grip...
white socks!
What was I saying about nice riding clothes...
In my defence that photo was a few years back. Haven't been flamed for not wearing a helmet yet though!
no helemt!
...happy now?
Rob your off CyB next week? Call in at Cheshire oaks for some cheap waffle soled vans or nikes.
what a plan - good thinking batman 
Off to TK maxx in sheff on tuesday so will have a look for some vans/duffs/etnies
Merrel vibram soles are surprisingly good too
got some of them here - will try em on tuesday
And when you dont get on wiv em let me know and il take em of you hands
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