[Closed] Shed build – things I’m learning.

I might have to do it tomorrow anyway.
BTW - that's an impressive khazi tymbian 😉

Such a awsome project I have one summerhouse that was here when we first moved in and a basic shed that's falling apart I'd love to build another larger shed in the space given when it collapses but I'm in a rented flat prob going to be here for another few years yet so may take project under way

Thanks for the nice comments folks. I think the end is in sight!
(maybe)
(already thinking of next project)

Remember reading this months and months ago. It looks great! Well done!

faz083 - Member

Remember reading this months and months ago. It looks great! Well done!

Funny thing is I can see the next project taking even longer!

Not read this thread for a while, good work sir!
Good effort with the roof, how much do those panels work out at?

granny_ring - Member

Not read this thread for a while, good work sir!
Good effort with the roof, how much do those panels work out at?

The actual sheets were £242.

3 off 4m x 1045mm
1 off 3m x 1045mm
1 off 2.5m x 1045mm

Glazing bars £81

All from www.capb.co.uk

You sure it's from there? 😉

Have gone with ply and felt for mine but will give this a thought next time round.

oops http://cabp.co.uk/

I can see why everyone goes with ply and felt. Plastic was a complete pain to install. It's still causing minor problems now (we installed on a hot day and it's now about 4mm shrunk per m width). The main joints are fine (designed to allow for it), but some of the capping has opened up to reveal ugliness.

It also took us 3 days in install (including rafters) - whereas felt would have taken 1-1.5. A lot of this was due to the angled wall though.

Now it's in I know I'd miss the light though.

You could always apply a security film to the glass. It'll hold the pieces together if a pane is smashed and should slow down the removal of the glass.

Yes, st - that's worth exploring. How transparent are they?

Some help required.
Wondering about ventilation/airflow/etc.

Do I need to actively create some vents?
I have the ability to completely seal the shed, but I don't know if this is a wise thing to do.
Obviously at times, there will be wet bikes in there.

What to do?
Is the bare timber cladding enough 'breathing' to mean I don't need anything?

I haven't got that far with mine yet, managed to cock up the felt roof somewhere and have a small leak which is delaying the inside from moving on with painting/varnishing the floor and insulating until that's fixed. 🙄

Get what you're saying about ventilation, not sure what's the best thing to do. After asking on here I used a breathable membrane with one inch batten to leave an air gap behind the feather edge boarding so plenty of ventilation there but inside the shed is pretty much draught free.
Interested in what those in the know suggest on what's needed too.

Bump - any help on ventilation?

Bump
I might get chance to work on the shed tomorrow, so any pointers on the ventilation thing would be great, ta.

In the end we didn't OSMO the floor.
After speaking to my brother, we used his product of choice which is polyurethane yacht varnish - we used satin.

Thinned the first coat, then two more coats after that with a light sand in-between.

It's come out nice (unlike the photo in the half-light).

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Now it's on to the colour for the door.
I wanted a brightish limish green, but that's been vetoed.
So now looking at greys - maybe Farrow and Ball Eggshell Moles' Breath.

http://www.farrow-ball.com/moles-breath/content/fcp-content

Here's my attempt to photoshop what it might look like:

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Once you've got the door etc finished you can see how much air gets in on a windy day. If you think you need ventilation, I'd make covered ventilation slots e.g. drill hold in a panel somewhere and then make a hinged flap which you can use to close it over. Probably best to fit a fine mesh over it to keep insects out.

Cheers footflaps - yes, that sounds like a good idea.
There's plenty of not very visible areas I could do that on. The plastic bits under the eaves was an easy choice, but it would also have been very visible.
Ta!

love these threads - we will need to see the floor when done please.

Bit of an update.

Finished sealing in under the eaves with spare bits of roofing. Made a jig to press against while I was siliconing in from the outside. Then did the inside the next day. Joiner friend criticised me for using spit to smooth it on - apparently the bacteria can speed up mould - should have used Baby Wipes according to him. Ah well.

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Front door painted. Farrow and Ball London Clay in the end mixed by a cheap local place (3P Paint in Stockport). (decided on colour by taking in samples of charared and raw larch into F&B shop in wilmslow).
Whether it looks it on the photos or not, it's a really good match for the hue of the charred larch. Used a flock roller for a really fine finish 4 coats.

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Finished sanding the floor (quite a big job actually). Then got my wife to varnish. Unfortunately it all went wrong here. Varnish was labelled as satin but was actually gloss. Time was really critical before Christmas because we needed to dismantle the old shed. This cocked everything up. Basically we didn't have time to recoat in satin, so it's still gloss.

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Went ahead with Ikea Ivar for the shelves and got a load of Really Useful Boxes from Asda Direct and others from Ikea to keep it neat.

Dismantled the old shed so everything had to be instantly moved into the new one - so it's suddenly a complete mess!!

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Pretty happy with how much stuff it's swallowed up though.

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This is what it currently looks like from the outside.

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So - I've planned to get some of my larch ripped this coming week to complete the door jamb, window caps, etc. I've been advised that I should cap the corners - which is a shame - I really like the clean 'wrap around' look. Ah well.

Hopefully it should look finished from the outside this time next week!

Does look good mate, I have to say.

Cheers granny_ring
At some point I want to try and remember all the things I would do differently so others can learn from my mistakes.
There's definitely enough to make a 'list' 🙂

I know what you mean about the list!

Does anyone know where to buy packs of assorted pegboard hooks?
Really struggling from all the usual places (toolstation/screwfix/amazon/machinemart/etc)
25mm spacing 1/4in holes.

oh yes - forgot.
While I was stuck at the in-laws over christmas, I sketched a logo for the shed (really couldn't imagine referring to it as anything else).

So yesterday I created it in Illustrator and then used my sons' pyrography kit to put it onto a spare bit of larch.
No idea what I'll do with it, mind.

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Just found this photo on my compact camera that shows a bit more of the interior, if you can ignore the reflection of the grass.
Still loads to do inside!

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You have created such a nice space Alex, I would be very tempted, to build a storage shed for all the "stuff" and just enjoy "THE SHED" as a chill out.

Thanks righog! The transparent roof really does make it nice.
I've already got plans remove all the lawn-mowing stuff and stick them in a plastic garden storage thingy.

Originally, I wanted to make it insulated and work in it, but we knew really that we had too much stuff to store.

The house is really small and I've got two boys, so it's just got overwhelming.

The big difference is that all the stuff is now accessible. And also most of the boxes are only half full.

Looking forward to getting the bikes stored better, adding some pegboard for tools and a workbench. Then I can call it finished and start properly thinking about a micro garden office ([url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/micro-garden-office-ideas ]see thread here[/url])

Just caught up with the thread and the "end" of the build.

Love it - that shot from the outside on the previous page is fantastic. You've achieved a rare thing - a functional shed, which is really nice to look at .

Congrats! (and you deffo have to do that outdoor office space now). 😀

Cheers ourmaninthenorth. Made some good progress today.
Too dark to take pics now, but I managed to get the door jamb and sill all cut, dry fitted and ready to char.

Thank goodness for a friend with a table saw - my skills with a circular saw are not up to this kind of task!

Took this just after getting the sill done. Put some effort into sealing with silicone too. I was told to make sure that metal sill thing had drainage holes right through to below, so I put in some 1/4" pipe leading down through the floor.

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That looks great. I like the light the roof sheeting allows. It makes it look really inviting. It looks complex shape. I like the window framing details too.

Superb work..... great thread....... enjoyed it

Thanks mcmoonter - yes the light is really amazing. Sometimes I'm in the shed working 'till dusk and then it seems darker when I step outside!

Cheers paulmgreen - hope it's inspiring you like mcmoonters/footflaps/stoner's/etc threads did for me.

Little bit more done today.
Charred the door jamb before fitting. Also installed fancy draughtproofing into a groove cut into the jamb.

I've included before/after charring shots so that you can tell me you preferred the 'before' 🙂

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Apologies for the quality - my iPhone really struggles with this gloomy corner.

Very impressive!

Just thought I'd bump so that it doesn't get the 1yr lock - will add some interior photos soon as improvements are coming.

Still struggling to find a good source of pegboard and hooks though - might end up doing French cleats instead.