So if Scotland does become independent, how will it be decided who is a Scot (and 'worthy' of a passport)?
Birth place, place of residence or something else?
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Scottish independence - hmm, a thought
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Posted 4 months ago #
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Who cares, but they should time it carefully and slam those borders shut and arm the barricades next time Rangers play in Manchester.
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I think that place of birth should be the main condition. Exceptions will be made for folk who were not born here, but are good on bikes.
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But who will decide what is meant by good on a bike, and then test applicants
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DNA test. Anyone who's dna can't be matched to a clan gets booted out.
Excluding awesome bike riders obviously.Posted 4 months ago # -
but they should time it carefully and slam those borders shut and arm the barricades next time Rangers play in Manchester
I wouldn't have thought that you'd have been so keen to keep the knuckledraggers* after last time. Still if you want them then they are all yours.
*In the interests of balance I should point out that I have the same opinion of both sets of old firm fans.
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Anyone who's dna can't be matched to a clan gets booted out.
ah the ginger haired master race
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b r - Member
So if Scotland does become independent, how will it be decided who is a ScotEven now I can't find anyone who can give a good definition of being Scottish - guess it's going to be a 'postcode republic' with anyone eligible to vote in elections being classed as Scottish.
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Anyone who's dna can't be matched to a clan gets booted out.
Ahh - The Scottish National Socialist Party.
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Even now I can't find anyone who can give a good definition of being Scottish - guess it's going to be a 'postcode republic' with anyone eligible to vote in elections being classed as Scottish.
It was actually a serious question, so thanks for at least one serious answer.
Now, TJ what are your thoughts?
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Scotland has a Commonwealth Games team, there must be some criteria over and above "too crap for the English team".
And there are some rather antipodean tones in some of the Scottish Rugby team, say no more.
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Now, TJ what are your thoughts?
So it was not a serious question, you were trying to antagonise another forum user!
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I suspect that, as with the 1998 Anglo-Irish (Good Friday) treaty, anyone would be able to choose their own citizenship based on where they felt their affinity lay.
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So it was
nota serious question, you were trying toantagonise anotherfind out the opinion of the most vocal forum user on this topic!FTFY.
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Scotland has a Commonwealth Games team, there must be some criteria over and above "too crap for the English team".
That's certainly the criteria we used for selecting Chris Hoy
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Does anyone think the majority of Scottish people will actually vote on independence?
My worry is that the people who are passionate about it will vote yes, and the people who dont really want it wont bother voting. Also opening up the vote to 16/17 year olds, not sure about that either.
Can anyone link to an unbiased review of the pros and cons of Scotland becoming independent? I think I am against it, but havnt heard the full arguement (not at all like STW, posting on something an not knowing the facts eh?)
BTW I am half english/Scottish living in Scotland.
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Anyone who cannot directly link their heritage back to Mel Gibson is oot!
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Anyone who cannot directly link their heritage back to Mel Gibson is oot!
I believe the test will be to see if you can name all "The Broons"
What about duel passports then?
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NO! If they want independance they'll have to live with the consequnces!
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"Does anyone think the majority of Scottish people will actually vote on independence?"
Last year the answer would be no. However if Dave keeps pissing Scotland off I can see it being a yes.I'm kinda intrigued as to what it has to Dave anyway as there is only one Conservative MP for all of Scotland! That's not really democracy in my book.
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That's the West Lothian Question in reverse!
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Will we still be called the "United Kingdom"?
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What about duel passports then?
Pistols or Rapiers?
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That's not really democracy in my book.
You didn't seem too bothered when we had a Scottish PM settling laws on English issues, that he would have lost the vote on without relying on Scottish MP's
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In Scotland you are eligible to vote if you are 18 or over and are either a British citizen, a Commonwealth citizen with leave to stay in the UK, or a citizen of the Irish Republic.
British citizens living abroad cannot vote in the Scottish parliamentary elections, but can vote in the referendum.
Citizens of other European countries that have registered to vote in Scotland can vote in the Scottish parliamentary elections, but not in the referendum.
"the referendum" here refers to last years AV referendum to decide the voting system that elects MPs to Westminster
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HoratioHufnagel - Member
Will we still be called the "United Kingdom"?
The United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland - why not....
...otherwise imagine the cost of rebranding everything currently with "UK" in it's name
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Will we be able to moan about all the Scottish immigrants taking our jobs, homes and women in the SE?
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Call-me-Dave is doing what he always does. Says one thing, does the polar opposite. All this 'preserve the union' guff is just a front. He'd desperately like to see the back of Scotland, thus ensuring a Tory electoral hegemony in Englans for EVER! MUHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
If Scotland gets independence, expect the 'Independence for the North of England' campaign to start within 3.6 seconds of the result being announced
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Not if we construct a proper minefield and barbed wire border along Hadrians Wall and refuse to let the b*gg*rs in through other Points Of Entry...
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Again I cannot find hard info on ths but from waht has been said in the past:
For a referendum it would be the people eligible to vote in Scottish elections now (plus 16 and 17 yr olds)
Citizenship - the people of Scotland are those who live here and those with strong ties to the country.
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Would you have to do a citizenship test Uncle Jezza?
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NOpe - I live here.
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Can you imagine a Scottish Citizenship Test?
Examiner "When was the Act of Uinion?"
Potential citizen "You askin' me pal? You want a fight?"
Examiner "Passed! Welcome to Scotland!"
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those with strong ties to the country
Define "Strong"
Could be about a quarter of the continental United States
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For a referendum it would be the people eligible to vote in Scottish elections now (plus 16 and 17 yr olds)
Why 16 and 17 yr olds? They can't vote in any other election, why should they be allowed to vote in this one? (The cynic in me has a gut feeling that they're probably more pro-independence than average...)
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