I have some tubeless ready rims to set up for my crosser as road wheels and some old folding Gatorskins, non tubeless mtb tyres can work,am I wasting my time with road tyres or is it worth a go?
Wire bead Contis worked for me. The tighter fit on narrow rims seems to work easier.
Try without sealant first to see.
i wouldn't try. higher pressure and faster speeds means more serious damge if it goes wrong.
I did this on my cross bike and ended with my elbow smeared down the road and going to hospital.
On my alpha 340 rims. A normal tyre will not stay on tubless.
In fact you need to be really careful with pressures full stop. Even with a normal tube.
Im really regretting buying them to be honest.
I had a set of ultemo ZX or something that did seem to work well however, so its not all tyres.
it might be different if you could actually
1. buy tubeless tyres
2. buy tubeless tyres for a reasonable price.
Anyone know any shops with Schwalbe Pro One Tl/Easy 25mm in stock >?
[url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schwalbe-Pro-One-25-622-Microskin-Road-Bike-Tubeless-Tire-700-x-25c-2-Tires-/201478035536?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368 ]Only ones I can find bargin[/url]
😯 179£
I'm running Specialised Roubaixs on Alpha 400's. Roll really nice on my CX bike.
[url= http://nextdaytyres.co.uk/details.aspx/SCHWALBE-PRO-ONE-ROAD-700/1889 ]nextdaytyres[/url] have 23mm ones in.
My 25mm Ones (non pro) come up quite a bit bigger than my 25mm contis on other bike so reckon 23mm ones would come up similar to a 25mm conti.
rosebikes have got 23 and 28 pro ones....
https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/schwalbe-pro-one-evo-road-tyre-hs-462-folding-tyre/aid:870789?utm_source=criteo&channable=e8596.ODcwNzg5&utm_content=&utm_campaign=870789&utm_medium=display&utm_term=
I wasting my time with road tyres or is it worth a go?
Do you value your teeth?
I wouldn't bother with non-tubeless tyres, no. It's quite a risk, and you'll probably find they lose pressure quickly anyway.
I ordered some Schwalbe Pro One Tl from Bike-discount, a nudge cheaper than Rose:
http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/schwalbe-pro-one-evo-osc-tl-easy-25-622-folding-497909
http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/schwalbe-pro-one-evo-osc-tl-easy-28-622-folding-499569
After messing about with expensive tyres and sealant, I wonder whether I might've been better going for tubulars - similarly priced, but considerably lighter rims.
WTB has a range of tubeless tyres to fit their tubeless ready frequency rims i19/123 (UST compatible rim profile but not sealed at the spokes) to be released in July.
I wasn't told costs though.
Verdestein didn't appear to have anything in the near future coming to market that was tubeless compatible.
I used this site for tubeless road tyres, half the price of UK, and arrived in 3 days, no issues
it might be different if you could actually
1. buy tubeless tyres
2. buy tubeless tyres for a reasonable price.
This, to the power of 10.
I am really struggling to find literally *anything* (tubeless in 25mm) under £50 a tyre! I'd love some Schwalbe Ones (no chance), Hutchinson Fusion 3 or 5 (ditto) or any of the others but they just don't seem to exist. Or are we really looking in the wrong places?
ask in the LBS; they can order them but apparently not many places are holding stock yet.
I've got 23mm Schwalbe Pro Ones on my summer bike. On Ultegra rims they come up at 24mm at the widest point.
They're a lovely ride. Run at 80psi, they're quantifiably faster than my previous Michelin Pro4 Service Corse. I did the same 30 mile ride on following days, and with roughly the same average heart rate, power, and weather, the ride on the Schwalbe's was 2mph faster on average. I used to run the Michelin's at 110psi as I'm a 'clydesdale'.
the ride on the Schwalbe's was 2mph faster on average
There is absolutely, no way, on heaven and earth, that any similar tyres are 2mph faster. Let alone comparing two mid-high end tyres. You just had a good/bad day.
I wouldn't. Have done the opposite without any issues. I have Schwalbe Ones in 23, 25 and 25 tubeless. I didn't notice an improvement compared with latex inner tubes on the same wheels. They are nice tyres though.
Try xxcycles I got Schwalbes from them in 25mm when nobody else had them in stock.
the only place that has 25mm Pro Ones listed, I've found, is
http://www.starbike.com/en/schwalbe-pro-one/#
but they are full whack (60EU). The other (cheaper) main German players say end on April for stock to come in.
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There is absolutely, no way, on heaven and earth, that any similar tyres are 2mph faster. Let alone comparing two mid-high end tyres. You just had a good/bad day.
I went to great lengths to make sure the test was as fair as possible.
And the Schwalbe's are proven to have up to 50% less rolling resistance than the Michelins.
[url= http://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/compare/michelin-pro-4-service-course-2014-vs-schwalbe-pro-one-tubeless-2016 ]http://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/compare/michelin-pro-4-service-course-2014-vs-schwalbe-pro-one-tubeless-2016[/url]
Comparison of the two rides, only mechanic difference was the tyres. 10 minutes faster for the same calories.
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Maybe you're just getting fitter? I looked back at the 1 and 3 April on my own Strava and I commented about "savage headwinds" on the 1 April and do recall that the 3 April (the Sunday) was much calmer so perhaps the conditions came in to it (if you're in the UK too anyway). Your second ride was fully 6degC warmer too* and you were pushing it more looking at your ave HR...
*actually that's probably misleading isn't it - on average it was about the same.
I'm not saying I don't believe that the Ones aren't very good tyres (I should know, I have them) but find it jolly hard to believe they account for 2mph improvement alone at a time of year most "normal" cyclists are surely improving week after week as they manage to get out more. 🙂
I've got a newly built set of sl23 pacenti (v1)
Are the schwalbe one's still the tyre to go for? - although perhaps summer best?
not looking cheaper on any german sites anymore
you're measuring changes in tyre rolling resistance by looking at calories burnt? That's a new low. 🙄 IIRC the differences between good and excellent tyres is more like ~5W. Which over your route would probably be less than 30 seconds.........10 minutes faster for the same calories.
Are the schwalbe one's still the tyre to go for? - although perhaps summer best?
Pro Ones are the current model. They are incredibly smooth, and roll well. I've had one puncture so far, which self-sealed. That's in about 700km of riding so far. However, I found a slash across the front tyre sidewall the other night, which is causing a slight bulge. Could be bad luck but the rubber layer on the carcass is very thin.
What are the schwalbe one tyres like to run in winter?
Ransos – I have been running One 25mm front and back for two months on my Zipp 303s. On Saturday at the cafe stop I had a flat rear. I inspected the tyre but couldn't find a problem. A whacked an inner tube in; 10 miles down the road it went with a very loud bang... the sidewall had split. Over the past two weeks I had hit a couple of potholes but nothing of note. I got home after a £35 taxi ride.
I bumped into a guy in our road club – the only other person I know running road tubeless – and both of his tyres had failed within two weeks of each other.
I just can't let the tubeless dream die as the difference between tubes and tubeless is night and day. A new tyre has been delivered... one last go.
I had 4 punctures in about 300 miles on pro ones (25s, fwiw) - granted that was on damp & flinty roads in the new forest but I have never had such a shit run on the older ONEs (tubeless in both cases) or any other tyreI've had one puncture so far, which self-sealed. That's in about 700km of riding so far. However, I found a slash across the front tyre sidewall the other night, which is causing a slight bulge
(I'm waiting for the specialised roubaix ones to become available at sensible price)
Just tried the Vittoria Corsa Speed Open (tlr) on my wtb cx i19's on my bish bash bosh. They work, not much more to say. We'll see how long they last the daily commute.
here you go
[url= https://www.athleteshop.co.uk/schwalbe-tyre-28-schwalbe-pro-one-tubeless-easy-microskin-25-622-folding-tyre-black ]Schwalbe the one pro in 25mm flavour[/url]
just got some 23's and 25's for mine. Can't recommend them enough 😀
On my alpha 340 rims. A normal tyre will not stay on tubless.In fact you need to be really careful with pressures full stop. Even with a normal tube.
Im really regretting buying them to be honest.
what is wrong with them, I have no trouble at all with both sets of my Alpha 400's
What are the schwalbe one tyres like to run in winter?
my 28's have been faultless in 2000 miles of winter riding.
I've been using specialized tubless on my everyday road bike for the last few years and only one slow flat So far. They are not as light as the ones though
where do you get yours from orangeboy ? (are they the roubaix ?)
Yep the roubaix ones which are listed as being a mix of 25/23 mm. Any local Spesh dealer should have them or be able to get them
would it be rude to ask how much you pay ?
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