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road bike - which of these 2 ?
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Rule #29 / No European Posterior Man-Satchels.
Saddle bags have no place on a road bike, and are only acceptable on mountain bikes in extreme cases.Rule #45 / Slam your stem down.
A maximum stack height of 2cm is allowed below the stem and a single 5mm spacer must always – always – be stacked above. A “slammed down” stack height is preferable; meaning that the stem is positioned directly on the top race of the headset.aye, fair point - I hate filling my jersey pockets with stuff so went for smallest bag I could find.....and I ain't touching the steerer till I've done a good few rides
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Nah seriously very nice. I fancy an advanced SL non-isp frame next.
I use a little Leyzne caddy sack that fits jersey middle pockets, 2 tubes, 2 co2, £5 note and tiny one23 multitool and a tyre lever - all very neat and small the wife calls it my man bag.
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I got a stone chip on the side above the BB on it's first 15 minute ride
I guess it's broken in now !
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Very nice and it will go faster now you've christened it with that chip. I liked the look of the spesh but couldn't have bought it with those zertz things spoiling the lines.
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Good aren't they those Giants
Got mine in the shops being built up, proper ugly mine not a single thing purchased for it's looks.
Don't slam the stem for the sake of it, the stem has to be where you need it to be.
Edit. If you don't like the rucksack under your saddle you could slip a tool bottle into your second cage. Pockets are really fine though.
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Personanally I would buy neither as neither have mudguards mounts. If I was after a carbon bike I would buy either
1) a Tifosi CK2 with Veloce and campag wheels. You should be able to buy one for around £1500, I should know I stock Tifosi so ignore the RRP,
2) try Titan Road sport. Glenn has a lovely carbon frames in which identical to the DeRosa R358? He is importing and anyway way cheaper and will build into a very light bike, with whatever spec you want.Posted 4 months ago # -
YEAH GET THE PLANET X
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That Madone 3.5 frame looks very similar to this
http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road-bikes/Carbon/Sram%20Op/Tuono%20SL%20Road%20Bike?product_id=432
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That Giant looks really nice and it appears that by buying it over the Madone you've cut out the middle man anyway.
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User review of Trek Madone 3.5 (12)
The entry level Madone was to a degree neglected by Trek while it was making all the OCLV frames in the US, but with the switch to having Giant make the 3 series along with another 90% of their models has created a series of better riding bikes branded with the Trek name. Its both a great thing for riders, but disappointing that Trek themselves couldn't quite get it done properly.User
User review of Trek Madone 3.5 (12)
@wolverine: Hi, if I might clarify one thing for you: the production location of the 3 Series Madone is completely independent of the design of the bike. It is very much designed by Trek, and the layup schedule of the carbon is also ours. The factory has no involvement in how the bike is designed. The reason why the 3 Series has improved this year, is because we redesigned it, not because we changed where it is being manufactured.What has also changed is that now all Madones are made using the OCLV process, not just those produced in the US. So, it is also very much still our process that is being used to make carbon bikes, in any location.
It is the combination of the redesign, and the sharing of OCLV that has resulted in the quality of the new 3 Series.
@WV Cycling: We provide various training options for our retailers to bring them up to speed on the technological advancements, and changes within bike lines. They receive this new information starting with our retailer show in the summer. They then have different avenues for further training that involve in-store visits by their reps and our two retail trainers, house seminars that we run from our training room in Milton Keynes, and Trek University, which is an online program that can be accessed at any time. We also provide them with printed reference materials that will help them to demonstrate the differences between one version of a Madone, and another.
The range isn't as complicated as you might think, either. All 3 Series Madones, for example, have the same frame. As do the 4 Series. What will vary between them will be the components. This is what differentiates one price point from the next. That's pretty easy for a salesperson in a store to explain.
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