Best techniques especially if there is a sharp, have to make it, turn at the bottom and no run out.. When I say steep I mean it, as in walking it is not possible.
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Riding very steep roll ins.
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Weight back, off the brakes, trust your bike.
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keep your head up, and look where you will be going.
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if you have to stop / turn at the bottom then weight down and back and use both brakes - in the transition to flat at the bottom you can use both brakes hard as effectivly its a compression and loads the tyres
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No brakes is not an option, my problem is controlling the speed without sliding.. Rode it when it was not dusty no worries but Sunday it was so dry just couldn't slow down at all!!
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I'm assuming the brakes will be on, in order to make the turn - so hips back enough that you're riding the pedals, not the bars, heels well down and head up. Turn to face where you are going next, not where you are already going - ie turn your head and shoulders, and hips too, to face the exit. Plus, commit all the way - visualise going all the way through the section, not just the bit you're currently on.
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if it's as steep as i'm imagining the back brake's not going to do anything but slide however you use it. weight right back and careful front brake.
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Glen you probably know the trail I mean if you are familiar with Ranmore. About 10 feet into the trail off the fireroad.
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I read 'very steep roll ins' as vertical drops into a transition at the bottom. If the transition out is also a corner, you don't want to be on the brakes, they'll just lock as the wheels load again.
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On a steep downhill you can use plenty of front brake - all the weight is effectively on the front tyre. Just get your weight down and back to avoid going over the bars.
learn to feel for front tyre grip.
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look round the turn and drop outside foot as you turn your body from the feet into the turn.
simples
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Not vertical I'd say around 65 degrees or so but good advice guys I expect I just have to MTFU!!
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Adh - note he said turn on exit!
dead, dead slow entry, sensible front brake usage (this is grip dependant!). Weight balanced so you don't end up locking the front, and don't end up endoing. Ease off the back brake as soon as it breaks traction. If all else fails, pin it, and hope your cornering is up to scratch. If it's wet, possibly don't bother.
Whistler and environs is VERY good for practising this kind of stuff!
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COOL 2nd pic!
Best tip I picked up was use the back brake as an anchor and DO NOT touch the front one.
Also keeps your pedals level and your heels low - that way force goes through your feet rather than over the handlebars (sort of)
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surf matt - why not use the front one? it has all the weight upon it so has plenty of grip
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COOL 2nd pic!
Same roll, different pov. The turn right out the bottom was fairly hairy in 4" of dust.
Front brake is the one that does the work. As others have said - get your weight low, and on your feet (dropping your heels helps too), but don't go too OTT with hanging off the back or the front wheel won't grip.
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I was heavy on the back brake and trying to modulate the front so it was on the verge of locking but not quite, arse was bacially on the wheel guts on the saddle, I found that I was still picking up speed as I was basically skidding down.
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Sounds like it is just very loose! Can't picture where you mean though.
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And I cant tell you on a public forum well I could but then it would get even more bloody loose.
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are you talking about the trail by any chance? http://www.nirvanacycles.com/media/Reformation.wmv
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get your weight on the pedals with the balls of your feet, poised and ready. As tandemjeramy says more weight on the front = more grip. I'd also keep an eye on your front wheel for signs of skidding, and feather your brakes a bit. it helps if you have some brakes with good modulation like hopes.
running more front brake should help with the corner at the bottom.Posted 1 year ago # -
looks fun
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Not those HH but nearby.
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im over that way friday/saturday with nirvana cycles
will have a look seePosted 1 year ago # -
Also....you shouldn't be so far back that your arms are straight, cuz then you can't really use them for effective turning or absorption.
Also, ya don't wanna risk catchin' yer manhood in the back wheel...this thought is regularly in the back of my mind when i'm back off the saddle.
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You'll know you're on it if you turn off a fireroad onto a singletrack after a short climb and about 15 feet in the world falls away.
There are some proper brown trousers trails over there it's brilliant.
There is also a hilarious one between the common and Summer lightning only about 50 feet down or so but truly funny just right to roll down but with enough turns to make it very interesting.
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I'ma big fan of not over analysing things,
Take the corkscrew at Swinley for example the run in is just as you describe, theres a tree root at the top fot he first ft is vertical then its another 6ft or so to the ground.
First time, looked at it, walked it, looked at it, decided it must be possible to roll, and did it, quite messily and no one else in the gropu did.
2nd time
3rd time
etcDidn't even recognise the section of trail (you can come in from the left or the right and the trails merge just before the drop) and happened to be in the front of the group, just instinctively nosed the front off and lifted the back wheel up with my feet (more like droping into a skate park than a dropoff) to keep the chainring off the ground. Must have been going 10x the speed and had much more 'controll' as I was actualy looking at the next corner and the bike dealt with the drop and turn on its own.
Must get a session with Jedi booked soon as I must have so many bad habbits I don't even realise so do neither as I say or as I do as they may well both be wrong!
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is it on leith?
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No its on Ranmore but I expect you went to deliverance today, always a giggle.
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no i went to mangrove lane, physcodelic warlord etc...
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I'd give it a miss. Until it snows at least.
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jedi - Member
drop outside foot
Eh
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I think that is Ranmore did you pass a pub called the Plough? One trail has a big fallen tree that serves as a ramp?
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Just Huck it.
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dunno. one has a tree thats a little drop thingy
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