is there a nice route from Rochdale to rammy?
offroad or on road will be ok.

Yes, via the astonishing Rooley Moor Road, also known as the Famine Road. See this website for an idea of the scenery:

http://idonohoe.com/

Also have a look at the Industrialfellbiking site; here’s one of their pics of Rooley Moor Road: (Hope they don’t mind?)

I should have added, without rooley moor road.

Rooley moor road, Cragg Quarry, Sand Beds Lane, Michael Wife, Turn Village Fishermans Retreat, Whitelow Road

alternative “low level”
via Scotland Lane

That used to be my commute. Its a great route. Head out of town on the A680, towards Norden, then turn right and head up the almighty slog of Rooley Moor Road, quick lap of Cragg Quarry, then over the turbines, and go hooning down Owd Betts Descent, bit of road then finish on the singletrack by the side of the fisherman’s into Rammy

WITHOUT?

Then you’ll need to use the turnpike from Rochdale to Edenfield. Good descent into Rammy but very exposed.

Owd Betts innit?

Rochdale to Heywood, Ashfield Road up to the A680, Owd Betts over to Edenfield, Irwell Vale/Road to Rammy.

Do you have to start in Rochdale?

Owd Betts?

That’s where some scunner hit me with his Peugeot. Be careful.

Tony, if this is for Marts ride let us know and i’ll pop over the hill with you.

Road is gonna be Edenfield Rd past Owd Bett’s I’m afraid.

Road is gonna be Edenfield Rd past Owd Bett’s I’m afraid.

Aye, or Rochdale & Bury Old Rd and up through Summerseat/Holcombe Brook