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1. 1kcove - Member

   Anyone got a hard tail made from Reynolds 853 tubing i no there are a few out there?
   Thinking of getting rid of my Cove Handjob for one (Any Pictures).

   Posted 1 year ago #
2. cynic-al - Member

   No...but a HJ is decent Columbus steel IIRC?, so any 853 HT may not ride that much better...

   Posted 1 year ago #
3. thisisnotaspoon - Member

   I've a Sanderson in 853, feels awesome, but then again I've not tried it back to back with its Cr-Mo equivalent.

   Posted 1 year ago #
4. ton - Member

   owned 3 differant 853 frames.
   to be honest they did not feel any differant to other steel frames.

   that might have been down to the rider tho.

   Posted 1 year ago #
5. ricochet_rob - Member

   I've got a Rocklobster in 853, very nice indeed and not too pricy

   Posted 1 year ago #
6. clubber - Member

   I do. I wouldn't worry too much about the 853 sticker as it really isn't a good way to spot a good frame as frames made of the same tubes can ride very differently depending on the actual design.

   Posted 1 year ago #
7. Northwind - Member

   I've got a Soul... Cotic use the material well to make a seriously lightweight steel frame but 853 by itself doesn't make a bike any better than a cromo equivalent. Don't get overexcited about material.

   Posted 1 year ago #
8. Waderider - Member

   I've got a custom built Orange R8, and no, you can't have a go. It's mine!

   Posted 1 year ago #
9. RestlessNative - Member

   I've got an 853 inbred, it's a bit lighter than a normal one and has a sticker on, I like it...but I dunno if it's actually better

   Posted 1 year ago #
10. bigbob38 - Member

    Pace??? not got one but a mate has and it looks niiiiiiiiiiice

    Posted 1 year ago #
11. paulosoxo - Member

    ton - Member

    owned 3 differant 853 frames.
    to be honest they did not feel any differant to other steel frames.

    that might have been down to the rider tho.

    Ton, you'll get shot for that

    Posted 1 year ago #
12. takisawa2 - Member

    I prefer my Inbred to the Soul I had.
    Would love try a Sanderson Life though.

    Posted 1 year ago #
13. steve_b77 - Member

    My HT must be rubbish, it's only Reynolds 520 and the other one is Columbus Zonal Steel

    Posted 1 year ago #
14. 4ags4 - Member

    I wouldn't disregard frames made with similar tubing from other manufacturers, like True Temper or Columbus - its just as good and would give a wider range to choose from

    Posted 1 year ago #
15. tonyg2003 - Member

    How about anyone with a 953 frame? That would seem ideal for mtb-ing? Maybe Reynolds don't make a suitable tubeset.

    I've got friends with 953 road frames and they look super bling.

    Posted 1 year ago #
16. Candodavid - Member

    Have an 853 and it's custom and you can't borrow it, looking at getting a 953 29er built by a very capable frame builder this year.
    Will be interesting to compare?

    Posted 1 year ago #
17. speaker2animals - Member

    Custom job from 18Bikes?

    Posted 1 year ago #
18. AJ - Member

    must also say 18 bikes too. Mines in the jig right now and i can't wait to swing a leg over my new dandy horse.

    Posted 1 year ago #
19. gonetothehills - Member

    I've had plenty of steel frames over the years, and an 853 Sanderson, and my favourite was my On One 456 in good ol' 4130 - the same material as my first mountain bike from 1992 or thereabouts... make of that what you will.

    Posted 1 year ago #
20. compositepro - Member

    953 currently fiddling with this at the moment...no Reynolds don't do a suitable off the peg tube set for mtb ....why not just buy a tube set off reynolds go on frame forum and learn how to build a frame....job done your a framebuilder

    Posted 1 year ago #
21. ir_bandito - Member

    Just about to build my 3rd. Had a Cotic Simple, then Thorn Raven Enduro, just got an 853 Inbred.
    I love the peace of mind that they're strong, flxy and light (for a steel frame)

    The Thron will shortly be for sale if anyone's interested. email in profile.

    Posted 1 year ago #
22. clubber - Member

    I'm stunned that no one has referred to the magical ride properties of 853 yet

    It's the pixie dust, y'see...

    Posted 1 year ago #
23. a11y - Member

    I've got a 725 (I think - could be 721? starts with a 7xx anyway) Genesis Altitude and the wife's got the same frame but in 853, both same size, both same geometry. Can't notice any difference between how they ride. 853 one is around 150g lighter but don't notice that either...

    Posted 1 year ago #
24. captaincarbon - Member

    Orange R8 pro... lovin it.

    Posted 1 year ago #
25. ski - Member

    RestlessNative - Member

    I've got an 853 inbred, it's a bit lighter than a normal one and has a sticker on, I like it...but I dunno if it's actually better

    Owned both the 853 & D76 versions, never noticed any difference tbh.

    Anyone done a blind test on both?

    Posted 1 year ago #
26. grizzpup - Member

    I have an 853 dialled alpine bought in 2010, absolutely mint, fully helitaped for sale.

    email me in profile for details

    cheers

    Posted 1 year ago #
27. toys19 - Member

    If you had an 853 frame and a mild steel frame made from the same diameter tubing and exact replicas of each other they would ride, feel and weigh exactly the same. Science Fact.

    Posted 1 year ago #
28. clubber - Member

    but one would be much stronger than the other. SCIENCE FACT

    Posted 1 year ago #
29. toys19 - Member

    This might be true, if you can define "stronger" correctly.

    Posted 1 year ago #
30. clubber - Member

    Here you go ( to avoid me being tripped up on a technicality )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_of_materials

    Posted 1 year ago #
31. toys19 - Member

    Ok you kind of passed...
    I reckon it would be better to say the 853 one, in theory, should be able to take more load before it fails, if you define failure as plastic deformation and not fracture. If you define failure as fracture then it may well be the other way round...

    Posted 1 year ago #
32. clubber - Member

    

    Plastic deformation is failure IMO (at least for bike components)

    Simple elastic only thankyouverymuch!

    Posted 1 year ago #
33. toys19 - Member

    yeah me too I was just being a pedant as on here if it isn't defined clearly then all kinds of misundrestimating goes on. Often even if it is defined clearly people don't read it and go off on their own anyway ..

    Posted 1 year ago #
34. Macavity - Member

    The Young's Modulus of steel is approx 205 kN/mm2.
    http://www.corusconstruction.com/en/reference/teaching_resources/architectural_studio_reference/technology/the_nature_of_steel/the_mechanical_properties_of_steel/

    Reynolds 853 is steel.
    4130 cromoly is steel.

    Even Reynolds 953 has the same Young's modulus (stiffness) as Reynolds 853, 531, 501, 525 etc.
    http://reynoldstechnology.biz/assets/pdf/rtl_steel_alloys_extract.pdf

    http://www.kvastainless.com/bicycles.html#tubing-info

    Posted 1 year ago #
35. toys19 - Member

    Exactly, even most stainless steels with pretty large proportions of alloying elements (like 310 stainless with 25% chrome) stiffness is 200 GPa so it only varies by 2% from "normal steels".

    Posted 1 year ago #

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