[Closed] Redbull Hardline Rider List. A bit Rubbish

[i]I have never heard of any of them[/i]

There's some big names in there.

Brayton:

Suprised Fairclough & Hart arn't on the list

😯 Not heard of any of em?

Thats still a decent list..

Lacondeguy - winner of the rampage last year.

But not as big as Danny heart, Dan Atherton, Loic Bruni, Bendan Fairclough, Joe Smith and Nico Vink.

Dan Atherton not racing it this year then?

Looks like a solid line-up to me though.

Yep some big names there from different backgrounds also. Bernard Kerr had some pretty good finishes in this years WC. Awesome rider.

Taylor Vernon and Martin Maes are on GT team so are expected to be part of it.

Lacondeguy - winner of the rampage last year.

Not the same one.

Lacondeguy - winner of the rampage last year.

His bro won Rampage.

I don't know 'owt about enduro or DH (I don't even know which of those cateogories Hardline falls into), but even I've heard of Kye Forte and Lacondeguy.

EDIT: seems like I might have heard of a different Lacondeguy.

I've heard of 5 from last years winner list and 5 from that list you posted and I don't really follow downhill.. whatcha moanin' about?!

(The Lacondeguy brothers always used to do the comps together as far as I recall)

Al Bond, biggest huck-to-flat'er on the UK scene and well known on the circuit for years. Are you new to this!?

Lacondeguy - winner of the rampage last year.

Wrong Lacondeguy, you're thinking of Andreu who is Lluis's brother. Lluis is still a fantastic rider though.

[i]Al Bond, biggest huck-to-flat'er on the UK scene [/i]

6 now 🙂

I'm still not convinced. I must admit that I don't spend much time watching or keeping up with all the events. I just tend to watch the highlights and read the headlines.

kye forte was on sprung 5

but there's some seriously fast guys in there & imaging forte and lacondeguy will be styling it up

They all look the same with their full face helmets on anyway

Gee's got to win something this year 😉

I'm still not convinced.

I'm pretty certain it won't be even "A bit" rubbish.

I'm not saying it will be rubbish. I was just hoping to see some top names riding.

So basically Rat-Boy isnt going to be there so your throwing your toys out the pram. I suggest you do some reading and appreciate who is putting their neck on the line (which they are riding the hard-line) for your entertainment.

https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider771/al-bond/results/
https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider980/adam-brayton/results/
https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider1755/craig-evans/results/
https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider995/ruaridh-cunningham/results/
https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider798/bernard-kerr/results/

[i]I was just hoping to see some [s]top names[/s] people I'd heard of riding.[/i]

ftfy

as has been said, there's some well known people riding, just not well known to you.

OP's thread title is "a bit rubbish" 🙂

Thanks for bringing this event to my attention, anyway. Is it on Red Bull TV?

andysredmini - Member

I'm off to the Redbull Hardline on Sunday and have just had the parking pass and the rider list.
I'm a bit gutted as I have never heard of any of them apart from Gee.
Last year was a star studded event and I was hoping it would be the similar this year.

Here is this years:

1. Gee Atherton
2. Alex Bond
3. Adam Brayton
4. Craig Evans
5. Kye Forte
6. Ruaridh Cunningham
7. Bernard Kerr
8. Lluis Lacondeguy
9. Martin Maes
10. Joe Smith
11. Taylor Vernon
12. Mark Wallace
13. Reese Wilson

And here is last years

http://www.redbull.com/uk/en/bike/events/1331677188101/red-bull-hardline-dan-atherton/results

Maybe it was too dangerous for the big names.

You are trolling.

I'm still not convinced. I must admit that I don't spend much time watching or keeping up with all the events. I just tend to watch the highlights and read the headlines.

Why are you going?!

Fun fact, I sold Bernard Kerr his first MTB. He was an utter loon then.

No shame in not having heard of any of them, but you really won't be disappointed.

I agree there's no MTB 'A Listers' on there, but I reckon I could pick out 80% of them from a line-up, a lot of them are in the GT / Atherton DH and Enduro Team.

It's 4 weeks before Rampage, which is a bigger event, more exposure, more money and all that - which probably rules out the big name freeriders and Brandon Fairclough.

Kye Forte is one of the biggest BMX riders in the world, if not the biggest.

Al Bond was second at the national champs.

Adam Brayton has had one of the best Dirt covers of all time.

Lluis Lacondeguy is another big BMX rider and brother of Andreu.

Martin Maes was EWS Junior champion, 2nd Junior at the DH World Champs this year and is racing elite in the EWS this year even though he's only 17.

Ruaridh Cunningham was a junior world champion.

What more do you want?

OP should join in and show them how it's really done 8)

Well do me a favour and see if one of them can get me a rampage ticket

I'd like to echo everyone above and ask who you thought was going to be there? That looks like a good list to me.

Kye Forte is also the current UK Masters DH champ and came 8th at the masters worlds... Given that he's a redbull sponsored athlete I'm not surprised he's there (in fact I reckon most people riding it will be in a redbull helmet).

My invite must have gone missing in the post 🙁

Gee - the man is a machine
Al Bond - amazing to watch ride
Adam Brayton - again, amazing, down to earth lad
Kye Forte - floats like a cloud in the air
Bernard Kerr - watch some of his vids from the off season in NZ if you still need convincing
Lluis Lacondeguy - Older brother of Andreu and just as mental on a bike
Martin Maes - one of the best natural bike riders ever- and he's still a junior!

I would be happy with the line up and regardless of who is under the ff lid it will be insane to watch actual humans launch off that stuff that Dan and co have built.

I agree there's no MTB 'A Listers' on there

When did Gee stop becoming an "A Lister"?

So basically Rat-Boy isnt going to be there

I dont think thats going to happen after they and Sam Dale had a sausage fight 😯

What more do you want?

Someone he's heard of... 😀

Kye Forte is one of the biggest BMX riders in the world, if not the biggest.

Kye Forte is also the current UK Masters DH champ and came 8th at the masters worlds

kayak23 - Member

What more do you want?

Someone he's heard of...

I don't follow soccer. Presumably if I went to a premier league game I'd be disappointed.

Homework time.

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I don't follow soccer. Presumably if I went to a premier league game I'd be disappointed.

So no else agrees that the rider list contain less top stars than last year?
That's all I was getting at.

And no troll was intended. I just wondered how many teams after watching last years would want their top stars risking life and limb for relatively no return.

Buying a ticket to a sporting event you clearly know almost nothing about and then complaining to the internet about not knowing who any of the competitors are?

Yeah. that'll be someone else's fault.

Who to blame though? Redbull or Dan Atherton (whoever he is)?

Maybe the riders are more suited to the course than the out and out DH racers who were more prevalent last year?

Genuine question - if you did a coca cola style blind tasting test - would many people know who's being the helmet and goggles? Can people tell the rider from their style alone?

Stevet1 - Member

Maybe the riders are [b]more suited to the course than the out and out DH racers[/b] who were more prevalent last year?

Back of the class for you too!!!

That's at least as good a lineup as last year. Wee bit surprised to see Ruaridh in it mind, never really seen him as a hucker/nutter.

On the red bull website it says "Last year’s winner Danny Hart has signed up again and is very keen. Brendan Fairclough also has something to prove after his crash last year" and also says there will be 20 entrants so im guessing thats not everyone

I haven't heard of any of them, aside from Gee :gasp:
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I must've somehow joined up by mistake..

euans2 - Member

I agree there's no MTB 'A Listers' on there

When did Gee stop becoming an "A Lister"?

Perhaps after they stopped making The Atherton Project. Or maybe because everyone forgot he was World Champ until Rob Warner reminded us at the start of the Worlds this year, or maybe after he lost 'the big showdown' between him and Steve Smith in 2013, but that's unfair and untrue.

No, admittedly I could have covered it in caveats, but Gee's a 'given' considering it's an 'Atherton Thing'.

edenvalleyboy - Member

Genuine question - if you did a coca cola style blind tasting test - would many people know who's being the helmet and goggles? Can people tell the rider from their style alone?

Some of them for sure.

Genuine question - if you did a coca cola style blind tasting test - would many people know who's being the helmet and goggles? Can people tell the rider from their style alone?

Its not about that tho, its for when he is taking selfies after the race, his mates wont know who any of the riders are. May as well not go if you cant get any decent instagram cred.

There's some big names in there.

[b]Ruaridh Cunningham[/b] is the biggest. Gosh, it's 17 letters long..

DrP

Point proven by all above. I obviously don't spend enough time watching or reading about other people ride.
Someone mentioned Danny Heart and it was him I was most surprised about not being on the list. I thought he would be back to defend last years win.

[i]Gosh, it's 17 letters long[/i]

only because he can't spell Rory.

yeah looks like a decent enough list to me. i remember last year there were questions about non-runners and the line was that redbull athletes only could take part, which is why Monster Energy sponsored riders like the Syndicate boys and Brendog were not invited? i cba checking up on riders sponsors but im sure Danny Hart rides for that Rockstar Energy now, maybe this is why hes not listed?

And he definitely shouldn't abbreviate his surname...

so as an aside, where exactly is this hardline track? will it effect me riding Dyfi on Sunday?

I must agree with the majority on here. Who were you expecting ? Why buy tickets for something you don't follow that much and will have to spend a large amount of time driving to (unless you live in that part of the world). Crazy.

Anyway have a good time , just wish I could get the time off work to go. The speed they go and the size of the jumps/steepness is next level s**t.

Looks great to me and as someone else said, there are some riders in there this year perhaps more suited to the hucking and styling-it-up kind of riding the Hardline course seems to be designed for.

None of them are slow but the inclusion of Forte, Kerr, Lacondegeuy would seem to me that the organisers are hoping for some spectacular riding not just fast DH riding....someone like Lacondegeuy for example has no chance of winning this thing but he'll put on a hell of a show, shame the other Lacondegeuy isn't there too....some sibling rivalry always spices things up nicely!....maybe this is Luis's chance to step out of the shadow created by his Rampage winning brother?

....and yeah, as others said Rampage is on soon and the top freeriders don't want to break themselves before that one!

Dan Atherton said last year the whole point was to invite riders from different backgrounds and put them on the same course, Forte is from BMX, Luis Lacondegeuy is BMX, DH and freeride, Maes is an alien at just 17 years old rocks up and takes silver at the World Championships having spent a season racing Enduro...he'd be world class in whatever discipline he chose....then you have a solid BDS rider in Brayton who can turn it on for the cameras, ditto Al Bond....then the seriously fast WC downhill guys like Gee..looks bloody brilliant to me!...i'm going too on Sunday, best clear my phone's memory as I reckon I might be capturing a fair bit of footage.

so as an aside, where exactly is this hardline track? will it effect me riding Dyfi on Sunday?

Track is in Dinas Mawddwy different valley to the Dyfi so no problem.

 

What was I expecting? A similar line up to last year with people I knew.
I wanted to go to watch the best riders in the world throwing them self-off that massive road gap first hand without the tv making it look smaller.
Being comfortable throwing myself off most of the biggest drops and gaps I encounter (Kinver Freeride Park for instance) I want to see in person the pro’s do it on a much bigger scale. Like after hitting some of the bigger gaps and jumps at Revo only to realise how small even the biggest jumps there are compared to what Dan Atherton built in the quarry next to it which He and Gee rode.

I'm surprised I don't who these people are. As said I don't spend that much time watching and reading about racing etc. but watch a few videos most days (that looks interesting) on the front page of pink bike and always watch the DH Highlights, rampage and some of the slopestyle. I have no interest in XC or Enduro but doubt any of these people come from that background.

The fact that they have been invited to ride means they are among the worlds best on a bike. You might not get all the biggest names in Dh, but you have some of the most talented bike riders on the planet.

How many of the redbull rampage riders do you know? Probably not that many, unless you follow freeride stuff.

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Luis Lacondeguy rides similar sized jumps in hardline on a bmx

I have no interest in XC or Enduro but doubt any of these people come from that background.

I wanted to go to watch the best riders in the world throwing them self-off that massive road gap first hand without the tv making it look smaller.

And you get exactly that, it's just they don't all race DH world cups 😉

kudos100

And you get exactly that, it's just they don't all race DH world cups

I'm pretty sure everyone on that list has raced DH World Cups except Forte.

I'm surprised I don't who these people are. As said I don't spend that much time watching and reading about racing etc. but watch a few videos most days (that looks interesting) on the front page of pink bike and always watch the DH Highlights, rampage and some of the slopestyle.

Al Bond was a regular on the Atherton Project, raced for CRC/Nukeproof, now on Dirt/Orange team.
Brayton, well... its Brayton, how have you NOT heard of him!
Ruaridh-Cunningham has been Junior World Champ in 07, and at Fort Bill no less! (beating Bryce in the process, 34th Junior that year)
Bernard Kerr is always bigged up by Rob Warner as UK's next big thing and has been top 20 in most WC this year.

Admitedly i dont know everyone (Mark Wallace, 11th UCI ranked DHer! He is Canadian tho).

[i dont know these stats off my head, getting from UCI or R&R, but if you even casually watched the Red bull coverage you wont have missed Warner talking about them (or seeing them in the Hot-seat). If you expected the DH top10 to turn up to a track in Wales, then you need to adjust expectations]

I'm pretty sure everyone on that list has raced DH World Cups except Forte.

The point is they don't all race DH world cups [i]now[/i], so the OP probably hasn't heard of them.

He claims to only read the headlines and doesn't follow things too closely. If so it's unlikely that he knows one is a junior world champ, one rides a dh bike a few times year and wins junior world cups etc

[url= https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/ranking/national/?rank_type=national&choice=rider&discipline=2&gender=M&rider_cat=24&year=2015&resultsperpage=40 ]UK DH rankings[/url]

[url= http://www.uci.ch/mountain-bike/ranking/ ]UCI DH rankings[/url]

They are all up there.

kudos100

The point is they don't all race DH world cups now, so the OP probably hasn't heard of them.

I can't be sure without checking but I think they've all raced WCs this year with the exception of Al Bond, Lacondeguy and Forte and Bondy's just had shit luck and tons of injuries otherwise I'm sure he'd be well up there.

http://athertonracing.co.uk/2015/09/10/dan-atherton-sidelined-for-red-bull-hardline/
Well Dan is broken want to give him shit for that?

I can't be sure without checking but I think they've all raced WCs this year with the exception of Al Bond, Lacondeguy and Forte and Bondy's just had shit luck and tons of injuries otherwise I'm sure he'd be well up there.

I'm not sure what you are getting at? Yes they have pretty much all raced WC DH and some of them are racing some rounds, but they are not on the OP's radar.

Point is, just because someone is not in the top 30 at WC DH every round, doesn't mean they are not shit hot on a bike and among the worlds best.

Op seems to be someone who is not a big fan, the kind of person who would know Federer and Nadal or Messi and Rondaldo, but couldn't name anyone outside the very top of the sport.

For someone who is a big fan of following mtb, the list is pretty bloody good.

mikewsmith - Member

http://athertonracing.co.uk/2015/09/10/dan-atherton-sidelined-for-red-bull-hardline/
Well Dan is broken want to give him shit for that?

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kudos100

I'm not sure what you are getting at?

You said "they don't all ride world cups", I pointed out that they did. You said "they don't all ride world cups now" and I pointed out that they did. I'm being a pedant, isn't it obvious 🙂

Lets not fight. We are basically in agreement. I'm pointing out for the sake of the OP that these guys are good (incredible) and that this is in no way a line up to be sniffed at.

My guess is that Redbull have stopped riders sponsored by other energy drink companies from competing. Rules out Fairclough and Hart etc.

fiver says thats Brayton saying OH ****

TheOtherJamie - Member

My guess is that Redbull have stopped riders sponsored by other energy drink companies from competing. Rules out Fairclough and Hart etc.

Hart raced last year when he when he was sponsored by Rockstar. Fairclough raced last year when he was sponsored by Monster. So, no. I don't think that's the case.

There'll be different reasons for different riders. Lingering injuries, lack of funds. They may not be getting paid or be contracted to ride one off events, lack of team support etc so they might have to weigh up the potential winnings/pr with the cost of travel or injury.

Poor Dan, injured again.

🙁

Craig Evans. Get in.