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If a pub shuts its generally societies fault.

Often, you’ll find its a change of owner/brewery/ new landlords a tosser/place has a bad rep for trouble/no atmosphere etc

Sounds like the OP was happy with the licensing hours, if they are kept to then no problem. But in his case they aren’t being adhered to so it’s quite a genuine complaint.

And as far as the “it’s a recession/dry Jan/smoking ban so lay off them if they break the law they are just trying to survive” argument – are you serious? I’m a bit skint, I’ll pinch your bike and sell it, use the cash for bills, ok? You shouldn’t complain because I need the cash, just trying to keep my head above water, ok?? 🙄

And as far as the “it’s a recession/dry Jan/smoking ban so lay off them if they break the law they are just trying to survive” argument – are you serious? I’m a bit skint, I’ll pinch your bike and sell it, use the cash for bills, ok? You shouldn’t complain because I need the cash, just trying to keep my head above water, ok??

Never stayed behind late in the pub then for “one last round” right before closing ? or a sneaky extra pint at the end with the landlord ?

No.

But then again I don’t have to drink to have a good time so never felt the need to hang around in a pub destroying my brain cells. 😉

Lockin? The staff tend to want to go home as a rule so no.

And you two are the reason local pubs are closing and have to try everything to stay open 😉

“Never stayed behind late in the pub then for “one last round” right before closing ? or a sneaky extra pint at the end with the landlord ? “

yes, but there are lock in rules, and one of them is not drawing attention to the fact there has been a lock in.

Thats a good point. People do know it exists but its kept quiet.

Another licensee here.

Are you sure the landlord is actually the owner? Could be a short term lease and they don’t really care.

You are not being unreasonable to expect the pub to keep to the conditions and don’t listen to anyone telling you otherwise. Nothing against lock-ins as such, (don’t do them myself, but don’t run a country pub) but the 1st rule of lock-in is “keep quiet” and don’t upset the residents.

Pubs are closing for a whole host of reasons not least because of cheaper supermarket booze and the breweries’ seeking ever higher RoI’s.

Smoking ban? FFS Hora, you a disgruntled smoker or what? Everyone seems to have got over that little thing and moved on.

Thanks all for the thoughts and insight.

Just to clarify. I don’t have a problem with the pub or there being a pub, I bought the house with that knowledge obviously. I had a couple of evenings after viewing the house to spend some time in the area and also had a night at the pub to say hello and tell them I would soon be a new resident opposite. I was also pleased to see that had about 4 notices scattered around asking customers to be quiet and respectful of the pubs neighbours. It seemed like they had gone to some effort to keep it a peaceful village local.

The pub was always a quiet, Sunday lunch, few beers for local farmers sort of place – usually a tractor or two parked up out the front at 7pm on a weekday night etc. Never really had any problems but it seems that as the pub has become more popular the landlord has seized on that and relaxed his rules and become less concerned about noise. So over a few months it’s gradually become noisier much latter. Generally we have at least two nights in the week where it’s very noisy until 1 to 1.30am (closing is at 12) and most saturdays excessive noise spills into the early hours.

I suppose I’m also anxious now as we have a baby due in 6 weeks and I’m wondering how things will pan out with the pub come summer time.

I don’t smoke. Come summer we’ll suffer the addicts in the beer garden.

OP- you really should just have a friendly phone conversation with the police licensing officer. They are civvies effectively, and very reasonable types in my experience. You shouldn’t have to put up with excessive noise way after permitted hours, particularly in rural area, and i don’t think you are being unreasonable to expect this in any way.

As mentioned, the ‘owner’ and ‘landlord/manager’ can be two very different types. The building can be owned by a major UK property company but the manager could be temporary hopeless idiot.

Contrary to Weeksy’s beliefs pubs are not closing because of people like you objecting to noisy lock ins, they are closing because of lethal combination of tax increases, supermarket competition, declining margins, soaring utilities costs, healthier lifestyles, and vulturous Pubco landlords.

You can always support the pub in future by taking your family for regular Sunday lunch there if you feel gulity…

Contrary to Weeksy’s beliefs pubs are not closing because of people like you objecting to noisy lock ins,

Lol I didn’t say that at all. Wtf.

I love a lock in in our local which is a music venue also. We used to get till at least 2.30 but due to recent noise complaints they kick us out about 1 -1.30 which is fair enough. I totally understand about residents who are disturbed by rowdy drunks and try not to spill into the street hollering and shouting, but the youngsters make quite a racket. It’s a knife edge to be fair as we love our venue but they are very much under the cosh about the noise so I’m ok with getting on my way when the staff feel enough is enough for the sake of the continuation of our pub. The irony is that the main complaint is from the S&M parlour just over the road!!

FFS don’t move next to a pub if you want a peaceful life..

Anyone arguing to the contrary is **** retarded and should take the matter up with some drunk and youthful over exuberant locals at closing time.. you know, just cos you have deffo missed out on a vast tract of the ‘socialisation section of growing up and becoming a useful member of society’ and need to be brought up to speed pronto and with gusto and vigour

meapy little shrews with their peaceful little cotton wool lives would do well to remember that they are only a tiny sector of the community

yunki – Member
FFS don’t move next to a pub if you want a peaceful life..

How long after licensing closing hours is it acceptable for a pub to continue making noise? How many nights a week?

FFS don’t move next to a pub if you want a peaceful life..

I moved near to a major cricket ground. What is suddenly that venue starts ramping up events into the late evening past its agreed licence and a volume that isn’t agreed?

I moved near to a major cricket ground. What is suddenly that venue starts ramping up events into the late evening past its agreed licence and a volume that isn’t agreed?

Sadly, poor planning.

Like these people who move by race circuits and complain about the noise, or they who move near heathrow and they build another runway, yes it’s unfortunate but don’t move anywhere there’s likely to be a longer/later term issue and you won’t have the problem.

I’m happy living next to it. Its when the grounds breaks what has been agreed. Its a cricket ground that also holds events. All the houses around it have been there as long if not longer.

you move there you tend to know what you are letting yourself in for- hence why I wouldn’t have moved next to a race track, collection of pubs or football grounds.

**** retarded

Check your spelling and grammar, otherwise you’re in danger of falling into that trap yourself.

meapy little shrews drunks with their peaceful little cotton wool lives[b]hearing[/b] would do well to remember that they are only a tiny sector of the community and should shut the f*** up at 3am

If they piss you off just leave every farm/countryside gate open the next day..

like alot of **** walkers and cyclists already do.

What thepublican said except……

next time there’s a loud lock in, get yourself down there buying a few rounds and being seen as one of the good guys. Then phone it in. You’ll be above supsicion.

Long game innit…..

You do realise that if the pub closes it could knock a serious chunk of the value of your nice rural village location.

OP You selfish capitalist pig, knock you house down so the pub can use the rubble as a beergarden and open air urinal. What were you thinking moving into a house. Did you not know other people can come into your kitchen and help themselves to the fridge and bum your cat. NO-ONE except YOU has any responsibility to behave in a way that suits anyone but THEMSELVES, least of all at 3 in the morning. You pillock. Get a grip.

Oh yeah and did you know 50,000 pubs close in this country every second EVERY SECOND, you just think about that.

You do realise that if the pub closes it could knock a serious chunk of the value of your nice rural village location.

The Landlord doesn’t care for his relations with the village. Only for short term profit.