Rockplough - Member
It's not about supporting a race, more about supporting everyone's right to do what they want with themselves
But if spectators didn't visit the Island and boost it's economy the TT would stop.
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PSA Guy Martin injured in crash in IOM TT Senior race
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But since its been there since living memory, its life in June.
Thankfully supported by the Island, otherwise we'd have a stupid situation like they've had up at Croft:
http://www.motorbikesport.co.uk/newsdetail.aspx?id=1447
Despite the fact that the circuit has been used for racing since 1949, long before any of the claimants lived there, the Judge upheld the ruling against the track.
I live pretty close to Croft [5 miles] my dad raced there in the 50s & 60s & I raced there in the 70s [we both also raced on the IOM]
The situation is not quite as clear as that linked article claims
The circuit pretty much closed - only doing the occasional rally X event - for almost 20 years before starting up again as a proper race trackPosted 1 year ago # -
Conner Cummings in in a pretty bad way too. He's a great fella and I hope he recovers to come back next year.
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Conor Cummins is reported to have leg and arm injuries and hopefuly no internal damage.
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The punishment doesn't fit the crime. One small mistake has far greater consequences than on short circuits. The best riders no longer ride on the Isle of Man because of the risks.
That's bollox
Most small mistakes are punished by a slower time [just like on a short circuit] - the racers are making mistakes all the time - the good ones make less
I couldn't even begin to count the number of mistakes the average racer would make on a lap of the island - it's a lot
The best[sic] riders no longer race at the TT because it isn't part of the World championship any more & usually clashes with a MotoGP
Besides, good short circuit riders often don't make good road racers & vice versa - it's a totally different way of ridingPosted 1 year ago # -
Pic of Guy Martin's bike after the crash.
http://www.energyfm.net/cms/guy%20martin%20bike_________________________________________________9e370fd5815ca76dd941e5696165cb3bwihe480moscalebgwhite___________.jpgGWS Guy and Conor and RIP to the others.
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Jesus, that bike!
FWIW, the fact that people move close to a noise nuisance after it's already been running -> doesn't mean that it's not a noise nuisance (or law or in fact).
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FWIW, the fact that people move close to a noise nuisance after it's already been running -> doesn't mean that it's not a noise nuisance (or law or in fact).
No, just makes them fricking idiots.
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Shame it doesn't work with Heathrow...
And believe it or not Donnington Park has a noise restriction too, and you can't even hear the MotoGP bikes when a plane is taking off.
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Pic of Guy Martin's bike after the crash.
Fenwicks and water then a bit of buffing that'll be good as new
Rear wheel missing too, mmm.
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Rear wheel missing too, mmm.
I expect a scouser stole it
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konabunny - Member
"FWIW, the fact that people move close to a noise nuisance after it's already been running -> doesn't mean that it's not a noise nuisance (or law or in fact)."
That's correct. It should mean it's their problem though. But apparently not.
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Healing vibes from me
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upuplink - Member
That's bollox
Most small mistakes are punished by a slower time [just like on a short circuit] - the racers are making mistakes all the time - the good ones make less
I couldn't even begin to count the number of mistakes the average racer would make on a lap of the island - it's a lot
The best[sic] riders no longer race at the TT because it isn't part of the World championship any more & usually clashes with a MotoGP
Besides, good short circuit riders often don't make good road racers & vice versa - it's a totally different way of riding
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You can't seriously be saying the TT is no more dangerous than short circuit racing? Lose the back end or run wide on the Island and there is a good chance you will hit something very solid, do the same on a short circuit and there's a good chance you will not hit anything. And it's the stopping very quickly that hurts, not the falling off.
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You can't seriously be saying the TT is no more dangerous than short circuit racing?
er no - as quoted - I was replying to your exaggerated claim that "One small mistake has far greater consequences than on short circuits" by pointing out that most small mistakes have exactly the same consequences.
You make it sound like misjudging the grip level or missing a braking point will have you instantly carted off by the ambulance or the undertaker.
Maybe you're just trying to make your statements sensational - I dunno -
but to give the impression that every little mistake could easily be your last is just bunkum, plain & simpleOf course it's more dangerous than a short circuit - no one claims it isn't
I've raced a good few laps of the mountain circuit & must have made many mistakes
There are places where you wouldn't want to make mistakes or push the limits of braking or use every inch of available tarmac etc. so you adjust your riding to suit.Posted 1 year ago # -
PSA for those of you that appreciate road racing
There's a John McGuinness profile on ITV4 @15:00 today
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i ran the ohlins race service at the TT in the late 80's and worked with foggy hislop etc,, as well as a lot of privitears,, and their attitude was yes it's sad when someone dies but that is risk they accept when they race , especialy on the island,,
i found it was the punters who were the bigger problem , it seemed when threw their bike up the road, it seemed someone else would come off worse, when collected by flying bikes ,but saying that it was a fantastic place to work for two weeks every year,, long days up for early morning practice then spend the rest of the day rebuilding shocks and especialy steering dampers ,, mosy steering dampers just explode with either over heating or excessive pressure
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uplink - MemberYou can't seriously be saying the TT is no more dangerous than short circuit racing?
er no - as quoted - I was replying to your exaggerated claim that "One small mistake has far greater consequences than on short circuits" by pointing out that most small mistakes have exactly the same consequences.
Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word small, would medium sized or big mistake have done?
The fact is the consequences of coming off in the Island are far more serious than on a short circuit. Some people think that's a risk they are prepared to take, fair enough I wouldn't try and stop anyone doing what they wanted. I was talking about the balance of risk.I think that balance is acceptable on short circiuts but I don't think it is anymore at the TT.
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Ade,that sounds like a great job.Any good on Fox forks?
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I think that balance is acceptable on short circiuts but I don't think it is anymore at the TT.
So it's a good job that people like you don't get their own way then.The TT exists. It happens. It carries on. Get over it.
Riders race there because of what it is - The fastest, most glorious race in the world. They know the dangers. The spectators know the dangers, but stll they keep coming. What's not 'acceptabe' to one person is a dream, an achievement, a pinnacle to another. As I posted on another thread, the TT is the last baston of all that's insane. The most incredible racing on the most fantasic race circuit in the world. Bar none. I for one am glad it exists. I'm glad it's existance annoys people. That's why I'm going back next year. You either understand. Or you don't
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so a stw ride out to next years tt?
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Anyone found any footage of Guy's crash?? Im gutted Hes my Hero..
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PP shock horror, I agree with your sentiment exactly. Gotta be a first time for everything.
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PeterPoddy - Member
I think that balance is acceptable on short circiuts but I don't think it is anymore at the TT.
So it's a good job that people like you don't get their own way then.
The TT exists. It happens. It carries on. Get over it.
Riders race there because of what it is - The fastest, most glorious race in the world. They know the dangers. The spectators know the dangers, but stll they keep coming. What's not 'acceptabe' to one person is a dream, an achievement, a pinnacle to another. As I posted on another thread, the TT is the last baston of all that's insane. The most incredible racing on the most fantasic race circuit in the world. Bar none. I for one am glad it exists. I'm glad it's existance annoys people. That's why I'm going back next year. You either understand. Or you don't
Well said. The incidious creep of health and safety naziism depresses the hell out of me. Life is to be lived. Not sat in a chair worrying about what if's.
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Lobby..... Is that real? Fooking hell
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Long may the TT continue, and hopefully with Guys name on at least one of the cups, Get well soon mate.
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The incidious creep of health and safety naziism depresses the hell out of me.
How do you feel about the rising tide of hyperbole that will inevitably lead to our slow, painful death at the hands of goddamn, dirty apes?Posted 1 year ago # -
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