@TroutWrestler, it’ll be interesting to see what Alpine Bikes report back, and hopefully it’ll make more sense than that conversation you had with Madison’s customer service. 😀
I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that they’ll keep the revised swing arms in stock given it’s a known issue, and they should be easier to store (space wise) in a warehouse than entire frames. Though if they do have replacements, it will be interesting to see whether those are the same as graphic-less UKBikesDepot ones.
Regardless, I hope you get it sorted or at least Madison step up with an acceptable solution for you.
LOL @ Big M, hope you didn’t mind… it was by far and away the highest resolution photo I could find of a confirmed redesigned swing arm from UKBikesDepot that showed the welding, I would’ve taken a photo of my Grapil frame (also a UKBikesDepot Special – but I wasn’t at home at the time).
But it certainly does seem that it’s the straighter welded arms that have experienced the failures, fingers crossed indeed. Welding aluminium properly is more difficult than steel but it’s hardly a dark art, It does seem highly unlikely that they’d botch it again simply to try and offload the frames cheap – potentially exposing themselves to additional brand damage/refund/repair/replacement costs down the line. These were well developed frames, and an inherent design (as opposed to production) flaw would’ve been apparent long before.
@catfishsalesco, thanks for the dropout/loctite tip, not something I’d have thought of checking, but I’ll be sure to do that when I build up my frame in the coming weeks. 🙂