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Yay, Nay ? for those that have tried them have you kept them or gone back to round ?
Not worn mine out yet. Will probably buy another.
Nay, might work for others but not me.
yey, seems to smooth out my lumpen cadence.
Mrs Kilo has them, seems to like them.
Love them and my knees say "yeah!" I'm using the Absolute Black ones with the guide and bash which works well.
Indifferent.
Bought one, felt odd for a while, then felt normal.
Crankset broke, ring wasn't compatible with the new one so got a round one, felt odd for a while, then felt normal.
For me there were differences, but they're very mild - I occasionally spin the rear on the round one when I never did on the oval one, the clutch on my derailuer got upset with the oval ring after a few months, doesn't seem to mind the round one.
Indifferent +1
yay. I pedal at low kadence, standing up a lot and I really like them.
I think I do feel a slight benefit on the climbs but the reason I am a real convert is that they have almost totally done away with the knee pain I used to get. For that alone I won't go back to conventional setups. 🙂
Definitely worth a try in my opinion.
Thanks for the replies, seems like it might be a way for me to reduce the knee stress a little bit. For those that do use them did you go for the same number of teeth that you replaced it with ? Ta
Yep I like mine.
No from me. Tried them when I went 1X, and did not get on at all. Went back to round, much happier.
Quick summary. Some people like them. Some people don't. Some people think there's no difference. End of thread.
Dropoff, yes I went the same size. I definitely feel a difference on my knees.
Works for me.
yes - same size as my previous round one
Thanks all, oval we go then 🙂
Currently trialling one and so far am underwhelmed but will persist a bit longer. I went for the same number of teeth (32) on 1x11 but perhaps should have got 30t instead. I'd say worth a try if you're curious anyway.
I stayed roughly the same size (up 2 on the ring but bigger cassette at the same time).
I find it's really helped my climbing, just less fatigue winching up those silly climbs that are quicker to walk.
I'm using the Absolute Black ring and really rate it. The way the teeth are machined means there's less of a shelf to accumulate dirt and grease.
I've had one on my HT for well over a year. You notice a difference for all of 30 seconds when you first fit one. After that you just get a smoother effective pedalling action. Same number of teeth as existing round ring, why would it be any different?
If you go smaller than 30T then you'll need a direct mount crankset which is what I've got on my fat bike.
Yep - I'll stick with it - I can feel a difference and tbh, that's all that matters.
Thanks all, oval we go then
If you're looking for 104 BCD I might have a 32 and 34 Absolute black for sale (spare as I now have spiderless ones.) The 32 is unused. The 34 has been lightly used.
I did as others seem to have and when I recently went 1x11, put an oval Absolute Black 32T on straight from the get go. I'm surprised how little I notice it, but it seems to be beneficial when I'm pedalling 'properly' (in circles, as opposed to my usual squares). It definitely provides a bit more oomph on the short, steep climbs and as I prefer to spin rather than stomp a big gear, I quite like it. I'd not considered the knee pain thing, but thinking about it, mine aren't grumbling much of late, which has to be a good thing.
Thanks Mrblobby but I need cinch
It definitely does something- it's not that noticable on the normal bike imo but on my fatbike, seated pedalling with the oval gives an obvious reduction in bounce. And bounce is basically wasted pedalling. If the same thing's happening on other bikes, and I can't see how it wouldn't, then it's helping.
I'm oval on my Meta SX and my bish bash Bosh. Easier on knees, more even more through the stroke, slightly better for gasping up serious climbs. Tey do feel odd out of the gate but that goes in a few hours of use.
I love em.
Just been out for a short local loop with some short sharp climbs and some faster flowier bits so decided to pay attention to the oval ring.
I feel like there is a slight advantage on steep, low cadence climbs but on the faster pedalling sections it feels a bit like I can't quite find the right gear for my cadence - maybe this just needs some adaptation.
Did anyone else notice this effect?
Use them on my hardtail and feel able to carry a bigger gear in any given situation. Not put them on full sus' as I did wonder if it might mess with the the suspension action.
^^
Yeah, it passes, your body will learn to adapt in a ride or two.
I like the idea of less knee pain.
Anyone using with flat pedals?
So the thing about going 2t bigger with oval is wrong then?
If you had a 32t round and brought a 32t oval, it will be 2t bigger and 2t smaller in its radius's.
Yes I'm using them with flats but also have a 110bcd on order to try with my CX bike and SPDs.
As far as the number of teeth is concerned I'd just go for the same number or even size down, you're not really getting any extra magical top end without losing the bottom end and as the benefit seems to be mainly improved climbing then prioritise what you need for that over top speed.
I went one tooth up for oval on a singlespeed and reckoned I was still able to get up all the same climbs. So I concluded it was having some positive effect and you could lose a little bottom end if you wanted.
Felt a little odd for about 30 seconds after that it felt completely normal. I've not ridden a round ringed bike off road since (not through choice really I just haven't). I can happily say I don't think there's any downsides and even if the benefits are psychological, that's still a benefit - right?
Does the chain fall off more riding down rugged trails?
@cha****ng - I switch between SPDs and flats, oval is fine with both. Chain falling off? If you get a NW oval ring then it's just as likely (i.e. not very) as with a round ring.
A 32T oval provides exactly the same ratios as a 32T round. What is different is that there's a differing level of effort at various points in each revolution of the cranks.
Since the ring is oval there are two radii so if you get a larger oval ring then you need to make sure that your frame can accommodate the larger radius. So if you get a 34T then really your frame needs to be able to handle a 36T round chainring as that's what the larger radius will equate to.
I ride a q rotor the other day on a Scott Spark & TBH I couldn't tell the difference..
Not so far for me but early days. The chain tension is pretty constant so I wouldn't see it being any more likely than with a round ring.
Somehow ovals seemed to annoy my already dodgy knees. I think it isn't just about chainring shape but varying chain tension on my older DW link bike has something to do with it.
Cheers guys. I expect I'd want same ring size on my enduro bike but could maybe hop up to 32t on my Solaris.
Oh & on my HT, when putting the power down in an on/off techy singletrack styleee it can "knock" at the freehub, i think this is to so with the rings ovality.
I put one on a new bike before I really rode it so difficult to compare and say how big a difference it makes, but where I do notice it is getting off my fixed bike and onto anything else. When I go fixed to a round ring, I really notice the dead spot at the bottom of my pedal stroke (about 5 o'clock) which on the fixie, your momentum drags you through. When I jump on my HT with oval rings, the dead spot is much less noticeable.
Personally I am becoming more of a fan, but more for XC and I don't think I will bother on my FS
I've had a pair of q-rings from rotor and recently an absolute black. Much prefer the absolute black as the q-ring is slightly off on the chainline and makes a grinding noise, teeth are also a bit longer and can be a bit too close to the chainstay.
i went up a few teeth 32t over 30t and its definately faster, but so would a round chainring, although on the other end, i dont feel to have lost my lowest gear. so all good
i like it and plan to buy the race face oval cinch when they pull their finger out, rf facebook replied to a message saying watch this space on oval rings, about 8 months back.
I had been using one for 18 months or so - didn't really notice a huge difference but didn't notice any downsides.
I'm back on a round ring at the mo because my new cranks have a silly BCD or DM fit and I can't say I've really noticed much difference swapping back. I was going to pop another AB ring on, but I'm being tight and will live the stock ring for a while.
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i like it and plan to buy the race face oval cinch when they pull their finger out, rf facebook replied to a message saying watch this space on oval rings, about 8 months back.
I've got an Absolute Black on my RF Cinch cranks and it's been fine - lots of companies make them, why would you need to wait for RF to make one?? I'd go for a [url=
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Another happy ex-knee sufferer ...
I think it does help on steep/loose climbs as well.... it actually made a big difference to Jnr. on climbs and he manages not to lose grip where he used to ....
You could probably just do the same mentally by concentrating but then it puts strain on the knees/hips.... as your basically pushing harder in the worst position ... not to mention you'd then not be concentrating on the riding. I do think they add to clutch wear but so does Full suss....
Running Absolute Black on my Full sus, round on my hardtail. I think there's a noticable smoothing effect which improves traction when climbing.
It's good, miss it on the hardtail but I'm waiting for the round ring to wear out - I can't see myself going back so replacing now seems a bit of a waste!
AbBlack Cinch ring on Katie's RF cranks fits fine, works well.
@speeder i've got an absolute black on my lefty, and it runs well its more waiting for a RF oval for complete the look of the bike so happy to run a regular rf cinch until then.
actually planning an upgrade on my lefty with the current drivetrain going onto a cotic frame i bagged on ebay.
will probably get another rf crank and get the works oval.
As simons points out above, they even out power transfer and aid traction- most noticeable on steep climbs and for smoother uphill pedalling. Absolute Black.