Remedy's certainly a better climber than the Five
I had a 2010 EX9 and the Orange climbs better than that did, I can't see a Remedy climbing better than an EX.
Now riding a 2011 Zesty....... it comes with a 5th warranty
Lucky, you will be needing it.
Now riding a 2011 Zesty....... it comes with a 5th warranty
Lucky, you will be needing it.
Possibly but nice knowing still covered in year 4 and 5 and not reliant on goodwill or a crash replacement contribution.
True, I'd rather it not break in the first place though.
Since Nove 2010 I've had a 2011 Cube Stereo Race (sold it as bought too small frame), then got a Trek Rumblefish 29er (sold it as was a great descender and a dreadful climber) and went and bought a 2011 Lappierre Zesty 514. I found the Zesty to have an excellent build quality, great spec (way better than 5) climbs really really well, looks the business and descends really well.
The 'snapierre' moniker seems to be unfairly obtained and I've met far more Orange owners who've suffered frame failures and ended up paying Orange couple hundred quid to refurb the frame 'at the same time' 
Good marketing ploy that, when the customer returns for what should be a free warranty claim then squeeze ore money out of them for the same used and abused frame.....
Also bear in mind most of the other brands owners aren't evangelical 'hear no wrong' types either...
The Snapierre name stuck for a reason mate, they break way too often and they still haven't sorted it.
I took a trip to GT last month, they has two Zestys, yes TWO, in with cracked bottom bracket shells. Quality workmanship there.
The Five Pro and the 514 are pretty much the same spec, obviously you should have gone to Specsavers.
Apparently for 2012 they have sorted the saggy rear suspension on the Zesty by changing the leverage ratio curve. It might ride half as good as a Five now.
The Five Pro and the 514 are pretty much the same spec, obviously you should have gone to Specsavers.
So you don't now have to pay £100 for bolt through fork? You DO get powerful Formula brakes, carbon swing arm, XT wheels on a FIVE now then???
So you don't now have to pay £100 for bolt through fork?
On the Five as standard you don't no, they have the same fork as the 514, but for £100 you can upgrade to some Fox Float RLC Kashima coated puppies.
You DO get powerful Formula brakes
You do, cheap ones though. I prefer the Hope breaks on the Five, as would many.
carbon swing arm
Lets hope that lasts longer than their alloy.
XT wheels
Nothing like some old school cup and cone hubs.
Again I would take the Hope hubs on cheapo Mavic rims, they are plenty strong/stiff enough whilst still being light.
5s are the biggest rip off bikes money can buy, stupidly priced and crap spec.
5s are the biggest rip off bikes money can buy,
Now that they do a 22"?
TBH I don't think they're a rip off. Nor do I think they're crap. Just not for me...
Big Dave, obviously your name has nothing to do with brains.
Flow....Obviously you are not a scientist either... idiot.
Flow - scientist?? Hmmmm
I love these topics.
All the people that wont spend the money or don't have the money just slag off more expensive products.
I love Apple products and yes there are other brands but it is a premium brand that I for one am prepared to pay that bit extra for.
It is the same with my hobbies, motorcycling and mountain biking. I ride a Ducati and an Orange Five, both are way more capable than I need but I work hard and love having these products.
Hope brakes don't always get the reviews they should for ultimate power but if you have a problem they sort it. I needed a dust seal on my XC4 Pro Levers (younger readers may not remember these!) so I range them up and they sent one out FOC.
So my opinion is you get what you pay for.
Say no more!
Get a 5 ....
Really simple to work on, one single pivot instead of a dozen as on some bikes, very strong and takes lots of abuse and it's British!
Have riden mine in alsorts of weathers at local XC, trail centres to doing the Passporte in the Alps, where it took a right beating and could keep up with fat lads on downhill bikes. The faster you ride it the better it goes, wouldn't swap mine for anything else full sus wise.
The hardest decision is what colour!
morewood shova awesome bike.
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