Brown bread is pretty high GI really, and fruit has lots of fructose.
The diet isn't just low GI, it's low insulinaemic. Insulin promotes the storage of fat (unless your muscles are in a depleted energy state, post-ride), and it stops your body burning fat. So reduce insulin production and you'll not only burn more fat but also not be hungry.
It works dramatically.
OK, interested to know why molgrips says 'lose the bread and fruit' then, as both can be low GI.
I could be wrong though. The goalposts seem to get moved from time to time.
stuff like rye bread is quite low GI IIRC
what foods are low insulin then?
binners, no glass pyrex dishes involved tho.......... 
fair enough, what foods are low insulin then?
Stuff that has a low GI.
Things with a REALLY low GI; no dairy since this makes insulin* despite being low GI; no fruit for the same reason.
* the foods don't actually contain or create insulin, your body creates it in response to eating them
stuff like rye bread is quite low GI IIRCwhat foods are low insulin then?
Nuts for example. According to some replies on here, you can apparently eat as many of them as you want and you wont get fat as they "sneek under the radar"
Bullshit.
fair enough, what foods are low insulin then?Stuff that has a low GI.
so you can eat low GI bread and fruit then?
EDIT: cheers Molgrips, I've got it now. no dairy though? no cheese, or butter? [shudder]
Ton.
How are you managing type and eat your biscuits.
Also, if you're going to be obese and happy, then your list of what you've eaten today so far is a bit light weight.
I'm sure you can do better.
Nuts for example. According to some replies on here, you can apparently eat as many of them as you want and you wont get fat as they "sneek under the radar
No, I tried this.. enough nuts and the sheer volume of calories gets noticed...
Warton - see my post.
EDIT: cheers Molgrips, I've got it now. no dairy though? no cheese, or butter? [shudder]
Yeah that's one of the hardest bits for me. A big cold glass of milk I really miss. And lattes. Cheese as well, but that's easier to manage, but you miss it less if you're not having sandwiches.
Full iDave details, tricks and tips are listed on the many other threads if you want to try 
Although.. low GI bread.. I wonder how they make that...?
No, I tried this.. enough nuts and the sheer volume of calories gets noticed...
So you could say that you are putting in more calories than you are burning. Could this lead to some sort of...I dunno...surplus that may lead to weight gain?
But....but...how can this be?
Solo, i will make up for it at teatime
grilled skinless chicken breast with a huge pile of stir fry veggies.
grilled skinless chicken breast with a huge pile of stir fry veggies.
Watch out for any German bean sprouts.
Jamie stop trolling.
No really, there is a radar inside your body.
Look, here is a true and factual schematic of your insides.
Solo - the answer for me is easy - I enjoy the things that make me fat so have continued to consume them. Now please tell me how this can possibly happen? "Sneek calories into the body, underneath the fat production radar, and they will be passed through the body and will not end up as fat"
Jamie stop trolling.
Me? I am not the one talking about apparent Ninja foods, that can stealth there way through the human body, and fly kick there way out of my bottom before the rest of my body realises I have been intruded.
I almost feel violated.
pfft, cassette tapes, that may be your body. mines more modern, i've got cds
molgrips - have you tried using almond milk if you are struggling cutting out dairy milk.
Ton.
Leave the skin on you wuss and get some chips onto that plate.
molgrips, I am on a bit of a diet change at the moment, cut out wheat, chocolate and coffee, due to a few digestion issues...
thats enough for me at the moment
double post
Solo - how on earth can calories pass thru your body? Where do you think they go? Out in urine sweat or feaces?
What makes you think that the body is 100% efficient at absorbing the calorific content of a substance?
TJ.
Please read the thread. It was an analogy refering to insulin response. I've tried to explain that. What part of Analogy don't you get ?.
You are not giving us your insight on the brains reward for eating crap, response.
If its just calorie counting, then, err, the brains response shouldn't have any influence. That would just be fiddling around the edges...
Ninja foods, that can stealth there way through the human body, and fly kick there way out of my bottom before the rest of my body realises I have been intruded.
PMSL, excellent.
Me? I am not the one talking about apparent Ninja foods, that can stealth there way through the human body, and fly kick there way out of my bottom before the rest of my body realises I have been intruded
Nor am I
Phil.w - I'm managing ok with the dairy to be honest. Currently, it's the Twixes I am having trouble with.
The whole dynamic seems different when I'm not riding to when I am. Haven't ridden for two weeks and it's all going wobbly.
IanMunro.
Thats right, but TJ thinks he smells blood, so he is too busy to think.
I'm going home in a few minutes, so hurry up with the jokes about my poor analogy.
Jamie's was excellent.
mmmmmmpie
Jamie's was excellent.
Thank you. I do all my best work when I am carb loaded.
Thank you. I do all my best work when I am carb loaded.
Ah !. Thats where I've gone wrong. I've not eaten all day and now have a 3 plus hr drive home.
I'm still not hungry. Perhaps the iDiet has cured me of needing food altogether.
Who wants my food, and a spare radar ?.
Solo - I understand what an analogy is. it would help if it bore any some relationship to what actually happens tho.
nothing to do with scenting blood - I just think its right to challenge the bobbins people talk about diet on here. There is far too much confusing fact with theory.
TJ.
Yes, I am guilty of using a poor analogy, my type of lateral thinking aside.
There has been bobbins and there will be loads more.
After all, this is STW.
Fair enough solo.
mmmmmmpie
Approximately 3.14 times better than every other type of food.
I just think its right to challenge the bobbins people talk about diet on here.
You know that we are talking about the basis for the iDave diet, don't you? And you already admitted he was much more knowledgeable about this than the rest of us, on another thread. Therefore it's not bobbins.
Molgrips - the iDave diet is based on theories that are far from accepted. I linked to another similar theory that is gaining acceptance but is not the same. Read the NHS advice and you will find something very different - and that is the accepted scientific con census.
Anyway there is a lot of bobbins talked on this thread about other areas concerning diet where adherent of particular theories claim their pet theory as fact.
Then there is all the half remembered and understood stuff that people spout. Thats why I suggested the NHS advice as a good starting point and then consider with open minded scepticism theories such as iDaves.
Are you still taking in half a kilo of sugar / maltodextrin a week? Still claiming coke is a good recovery drink?
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