Seems I was wrong - he's a "comedian" called Johnnie Marbles. Even tweeted that he was going to do it. I would have thought they'd have done something to block phone signals in the room. It also looks as though people were tweeting questions to the committee unless it's just a coincidence that members have been asking questions just after they've been raised on Twitter.
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NOTW Hacking [spoiler]
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Posted 10 months ago #
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Laura Kuenesburg(sp) has made a seemingly valid observation that Ginger Brooks could avoid a lot of the questions due to her arrest.
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1820:
A bit of breaking news now: Hacking suspect Neil Wallis may have provided "informal advice" to David Cameron's communications chief Andy Coulson before the general election, the Conservative Party have said.
so does this mean they had info from labour mps hacked phones?
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A fair chance I think
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brooks is full of it
she claims she (and coulson) were closely involved and as editor had final say on milly dowler stories and at the same time was unaware that millys phone was hacked
yet the papers own stories at the time were talking about the contents of millys message boxedit now she says she was on holiday when that particular story was run thru and said coulson was in charge
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They don't seem to be taking toilet breaks, leaking MP's bladders?
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It was Pie Man!
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i did wonder who that fit bird doing the sharon stone leg thing in teh background was, turns out it was his wife!
Now I know what to buy her for Christmas
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I have just been watching this from the visitors' gallery. Cameron did not look worried at all. Milliband was much more effective than I expected after he got off his prepared speech. News international have not yet let their solicitors say what they know. I think they said there had been 40,000 phones hacked.
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Aye - good performance from Cameron today. he is not out of the brown and sticky stuff yet but he did well.
Still would not deny discussing BskyB takeover with Brooks and still has some nasty stuff to deal with over Coulsons appointment
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So the murdoch's know nothing about phone hacking
Brooks knows nothing about phone hacking
Coulson knows nothing about phone hacking
Cameron knows nothing about coulson
And the met (bless em) know absolutely **** all about any of it!Well I'm glad that's a bit clearer.
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Nicely summed up yoss.
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i think yosarrian has the gist of it
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One line mmissing, Yoss: witness that knew everything dead.
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Apparently witness that knew everything wasn't very reliable and might not have been prepared to testify in court.
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Oh yeah I'd forgotten that one
It all smells shittier that shitty mcshit, the world's shittiest smelling person.
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shitty mcshit
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Apparently witness that knew everything wasn't very reliable and might not have been prepared to testify in court.
err..I wonder who decided that, the Met?, or one of the NI peeps? Well, in any case it doesn't look like anyone wanted to take a chance.You're right Yoss, it stinks o'shit - no wonder Daveyboy has been hiding!
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Who's going to be found dead of natural causes in unsuspicious circumstances next do we think?
My money is on Coulson, he must be crapping himself at every creaking floorboard at the minute.
Would it be insensitive to see what odds William Hill are offering?
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Would it be insensitive to see what odds William Hill are offering?
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7-4 on at Ladbrokes
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But of course he can rely on Dave to protect him,ROFPMSL.
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After all,Dave knows the first rule of politics,no witnesses,no crime.
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And it continues. James Murdoch has been dropped it by an ex editor of the NOTW and its top lawyer - accusing him of lying to the house of commons committee
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/21/james-murdoch-select-committee-evidence
Coulson got a lower level of vetting than the people before and after him in the post. The excuses simply do not ring true
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/21/david-cameron-andy-coulson-security-vetting
Cameron now 8-1 to resign
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This has got a lot of legs yet TJ. It's going to run and run. This is when its starting to get interesting though. Its squeaky bum time. There is going to be prison time handed out for this. I expect this is the start of people who have so far held their nerve, starting to break ranks and accuse each other.
The 'I'm not going down to protect you!" or the "**** it! If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me!" approach
Can't wait personally
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Yup. Cameron must be shitting himself 'cos while I doubt he has done anything criminal he has sure made some catestrophically bad errors of judgement adn if someone dobs him in he will have to go.
Didn't vet coulson, didn't know he was dirty as sin?
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Tom Watson
When you signed off the Taylor payment, did you see or were you made aware of the full Neville email, the transcript of the hacked voicemail messages?"
To this James Murdoch answered:
"No, I was not aware of that at the time."
In their statement, Myler and Crone claim:
"In fact, we did inform him of the 'for Neville' email which had been produced to us by Gordon Taylor's lawyers."
they informed him of the Email - they don't claim he had seen it, or that he was aware of the full contents.
Very poor question by Tom Watson - Murdoch did not claim he was not aware of the existence of the email - he claimed he was not aware of and had not seen the full email transcript.
had Watson asked another question, he may have got another answer, but it seems Murdochs claim was technically correct, all down to the use of the word full by Watson
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Yup. Cameron must be shitting himself 'cos while I doubt he has done anything criminal he has sure made some catestrophically bad errors of judgement adn if someone dobs him in he will have to go.
Didn't vet coulson, didn't know he was dirty as sin?Someone in Whitehall RIGHT NOW is being lined up to take one for the team. Cameron primed us for this the other day. An adviser or administrator will be brought forward as the person who failed to follow protocol and failed to inform the PM of the failure.
Cameron will survive this.
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yossarian - Member
Cameron will survive this.
More than survive, he will prosper.
The police and press will undergo a politically motivated 'cleansing', the public will hail Dave as the person who cleaned up the press and any real investigative journalism will be harder as public perception of the press is now very poor.
A few sacrificial heads will roll, a few backs will be scratched and after the summer break the gravy train will still be leaving platform 1 with all seats in first class full.......
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Camerons personal poll ratings have gone up through all this. Looks like his 'doing a Blair' strategy and disappearing off abroad seems to have worked
What that says about the gullibility and general intelligence of the Great British Public is frankly terrifying
Could he be any smugger? I suspect we may be about to find out
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Cameron will survive this.
Depends if someone drops him in it. I would be sure that one of Brooks, Coulson, Murdoch and others will have the killer fact available.
The question is will they use it? To avoid jail? Maybe. Thats the only way he will have to go if one of the big players dobs him in with having lied to parliament.
I think 8-1 is a realistic odds. However he is weak boith in his own party and with the LibDems. It could be a saving tactic for the lib dems, dump clegg, force vote of no confidence in Cameron, foprce election. Look at us - we want to clean things up and we will have no truck with that sleazebag.
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TandemJeremy - Member
[quote]Cameron will survive this.
Depends if someone drops him in it. I would be sure that one of Brooks, Coulson, Murdoch and others will have the killer fact available.
The question is will they use it? To avoid jail? Maybe. Thats the only way he will have to go if one of the big players dobs him in with having lied to parliament.
[/quote]If the killer fact exists it will be worth more as influence when this has all blown through (as it inevitably will) than a get out of jail card.
The jail (if it happens), will be 'soft time', the fallout for the dobber will be the real 'hard time'.That's the way I reckon it will play out unfortunately
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Brooks, Coulson the Murdochs need each other. Any cracks that appear in their joint denials will open up like a butterflied chicken, and they know it.
Cameron has set a decent tone and moved at a good pace on this. Any shit that sticks to him will get rolled in glitter and given to milliband for Christmas.
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Cameron will survive just fine. No-one in the Conservative party is about to turf him out and force a general election. The Lib Dems know that they would be eaten for breakfast by Labour. So unless he has actually done something illegal (and trusting the wrong people is still not a crime in this country) the worse he will face is having to eat some humble pie, which he has already done and is adept at doing.
Interesting factoid: the Labour Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, back in 2006 knew that there was widespread illegal phone hacking, going much beyond the royal phone hacking charges, and chose to do nothing:
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Zulu-Eleven - Member
Tom Watson
When you signed off the Taylor payment, did you see or were you made aware of the full Neville email, the transcript of the hacked voicemail messages?"
To this James Murdoch answered:
"No, I was not aware of that at the time."
In their statement, Myler and Crone claim:
"In fact, we did inform him of the 'for Neville' email which had been produced to us by Gordon Taylor's lawyers."
they informed him of the Email - they don't claim he had seen it, or that he was aware of the full contents.
Very poor question by Tom Watson - Murdoch did not claim he was not aware of the existence of the email - he claimed he was not aware of and had not seen the full email transcript.
had Watson asked another question, he may have got another answer, but it seems Murdochs claim was technically correct, all down to the use of the word full by Watson
How unsurprising that you have come to James Murdoch's defence Zulu-Eleven, whilst at the same taking a swipe at Tom Watson who more than any other MP, has exposed the criminality which occurred in News International.
Although I find your suggestion that James Murdoch as Chairman and Chief Executive of News Corporation in the UK, wouldn't have bothered fully reading an email of crucial importance, in relation to a situation which was forcing him to write mega cheques as hush money, completely absurd.
Still, only you could come on here and try to defend the Murdochs, most Tories wouldn't even bother trying - so well done you for giving it your best shot.
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