I havent returned to KMB since their mechanic recommended i buy a Mountain king (Wire bead) as a good trail centre tyre. Its the biggest pile of poop on ANY trail condition. Dry loose - Nightmare. Wet Rock - Nightmare. Mud - Rubbish
I have a 10% worn tyre in the garage loft which will go on my wifes bike (Cos i love her and she only rides to the shops on it)
Its really interesting how people are saying good and bad things about the tyre in seemingly the same conditions/ground types.
does it come down to how aggressive you are?
DB-> they're just $h!te.
dirtbiker100. did you just spill my pint 
i swapped the pair i rode on sunday to a pair of maxxis advantage 2.4s at work today.
i rode the bike home on the road....think i am now gonna put the mountain kings back on.............. 
I like Mountain Kings supersonic tubeless 35 psi,dont do a lot of slabby rock stuff, but there is a weight limit on them dontchknow !
Fine for Cannocks peebles not so good in mud but then again its all about the rider.
Rich
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also ran some rubber queens for a while...they too are rubbish, imho.
maxxis seem to be the best tyres at the present time..
Shhh, don't let them hear you over there <<<<<
I thought they were the holy grail and was considering trying some.
Fine for Cannocks peebles not so good in mud but then again its all about the rider.
Rich
oy hairyface, come and ride down some steps n slabs round hebbers on em..we will see if it is down to the rider.......
Horrid things, black chilli compound and all!
I think I've crashed everytime I've had the misfortune to ride a bike with them on, I forget and assume the Kenda Stick-E BG/Nev grip levels are going to be there, next thing I know I'm face down on the ground! 
why do they put them on a £4200 spicy 916 ????.
not sticking up for them.just find it a bit weird.
to get in the spend budget....
I've got 2.2 Mountain Kings on my bike. They were cheap and have a wire bead, so I assume they're not any clever compound or anything.
I think they're fine. Did the Kielder100 in the wet on them and a few long road rides in the run up to it, as well as a very wet ride in Swaledale.
*cheeky* If anyone wants to send any my way, send me an email (my username 'gmail.com) for my address and I'll drop you the postage and the price of a pint via Paypal */cheeky* 
I've posted about this a few times lately......
Had a pair on my new Genesis about 3 or 4 months ago. I rode them on my local trails - loose rock, wet roots, technical DH. No problems. Have ridden them at Afan, and used them for a 12hr solo at 24/12 (which was rather wet, and rooty in places). Absoluteley no problems with grip. Tidy handling, fast running tyres.
If they were useless they would have been straight off the bike as I've got a few spare pairs.
However, I was plagued with thorn punctures. I was repairing the tubes last week and had to chuck a few tubes out purely because of the number of holes in them. No thorns at all, just holes.
So, summary. If you don't expect them to have HUUUUGE amounts of grip (just look at that tread pattern!), they work well on almost anything.
For me.
Here in Wales and in Newnham.
But don't ride within 100m of anything sharp.
Phew there are a few good reviews.
I've just ordered some UST ones for my new wheels - should I start looking for some others, for through the winter (ride in the Chilterns mostly)?
I know I keep harping on but these have a recommended pressure of 50 psi. They scared me at less pressure but were completely fine once pumped up.
I assume the manufacturers know best how to set up the tyres they make?
robhughes - ha ha no not at all! just looking for a reason why some find them fine and others don't. i love hitting corners fast so high rollers do it for me at the moment but what kind of rider do the MK's suit? those that don't attack corners etc? not saying anything about those riders as i don't know any of them but just wondering!
singletracksurfer - give them a go. several people on here obviously swear by them so give em a go!
**** just bought some! They were highly rated on another "review" site, used them once at Gisburn seamed miles better in the corners than Schwalbe Fat Alberts.
Looking one or two of the smaller width MKs if anybody is looking rid for a few quid - mail in profile.
The basic conti tyres seem to have a hard compound, the verts I have do = crap.
If you want good grip go for a soft compound this probably matters more than the tread design!?
dirtbiker100.there are some very agresive riders out there he he. 
I ride like a child me!!! Never get much above 10mph and I've never railed a berm in my life that must be why I like em..
I think a lot of it is down to what you're used to, I can happily ride around on MKs once I remember they're on, it's when I forget I'm not running my usual Kenda combo and start taking liberties in the corners that the MKs come up desperately short in comparison.
In fact, I don't even mind it on the rear, it's the front where I get bitten.
Have got two pairs of protection's 2.2 and 2.4. Shockingly shite. Even in dusty spain. No feel of when they're going to let go. Just grip grip grip, and on your face. We all don't mind the back flailing around a bit right, but not the front. I hear the black chilli ones are good but with such a poorly designed knob profile I'm not guna try them. Unless they're free.
I've just ordered some UST ones for my new wheels - should I start looking for some others,
The USTs are the same hard compound that people are slating here.
I've got the UST and the Protection version with the posh black chili compound.
The UST is pretty poor, tbh, while the Protection is a good all round tyre that has served me well in wet, snow and ice as well as the dry.
Bit flimsier than a nevegal or high roller, for example, but not a bad tyre at all. Especially if you ride light.
If I were you, I'd see if I could cancel that order and get something else though. Maybe a DTC nevegal if you want UST?
I like Mountain Kings, always found them fine. But then I hate Nobby Nics and Kenda tyres, so go figure. High Rollers for the win though.
minnions is were it is at...........gnarrr to the max.......
Protection black chilli 2.4s are fine here, and I'm a fat numpty who's used to supertacky minions, i'm just too unfit to keep hauling the things uphill.
I reckon y'all just can't corner.
2.2 Protections with black chili here. Brilliant tyres and very predictable in all but the wettest of off camber slabs. I'm running them at 45PSI front and rear on a hardtail. Looking forward to trying the Rubber Queen 2.2 black chili on the front with MK on the rear too.
Problem is that people go out and buy bottom of the range cheap tyres and expect them to perform.
Surfr wrote: "Problem is that people go out and buy bottom of the range cheap tyres and expect them to perform."
My Nevegals are cheap tyres, they're an awful lot better than my expensive Supersonic MKs were.
As said above MKs need to be blown up hard to work.....around 45 psi here front and rear and they are great tyres (black chilli 2.4s run tubeless for me)any less pressure and they squirm around all over the place! Not great in gloopy wet conditions but then thats what mud tyres are for!
Also they are fast and light for the size and the trade off is well worth it.
They are okay as a rear tyre if a little draggy. Found them Horrible on the front through.
I love them whether wet or dry (i have the cheapest ones in 2.0) but if you do a lot of braking at times when you shouldnt they will punch you in the face! Only time I had slight problems with them was at night at Mayhem on really clayey mud and I was braking too much as eyes refused to get used to night riding.
I looked at one today, to replace the second Eskar with a shredded sidewall (no more Eskars for me!).
Having looked at a Mountain King for all of about ten seconds, I bought another Rubber Queen instead. Proper tyres.
OP - Crap riding skills more like!
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