Unbelievable 😥

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/stoke_and_staffordshire/10312841.stm

do you want a slap ?

Theres no match on, Sfb 8)

Yet another reason for football to be banned 😆

Some fans have to hand in their passports when matches are on abroad; seems some should be locked up as an extra precaution.

Surely it would be better to let these thugs travel so that they can beat up a foreigner rather than confining them here where they end up taking their frustrations out on friends and family.

Yeah, hopefully have them do it all in a country where corporal punishment still exists, lets see if they keep it up when they are treated the same.

Surely this is more to do with drinking than with wendyball per se.

Well on Saturday night there were "young men and women" walking up and down the road round where I live until gone midnight shouting "we hate USA, break their necks" until 4 police cars and a van turned up and hoovered them up after some further "Loud discussions".

Sums football fans up.

wise words 0091paddy, they're all like that aren't they.

IanMunro – Member
Surely this is more to do with drinking than with wendyball per se.

Have you seen how much beer gets swilled at rugby and cricket matches? Masses. More than that, in fact.

It's not about the booze.

Yup Ian has it's the booze, yes when matches are on people drink more but you don't have to drink because there's match on. If they didn't then there wouldn't be such an increase in violence.

ok cap'n what is it about ?

say what you're alluding to.

It's not about the booze

It's not about anything without more info regarding the variability between weekends generally
Anyhow,I reckon the rugby's to blame – that's what started everyone off at 10.30 in the pubs, isn't it ?

Rugby fans are way more dangerous than football fans. At least with footie fans you haven't got the danger of being bored to death.

Well you live in a shit area then aP – you had better move 😉

We (ambulance service) had a memo round saying there was a 20% surge in emergency calls every time england played in the last world cup, I expect police experience the same.

I, for one, felt like punching someone when Green fumbled the ball into the goal. I mean, come on, who didn't? You can't punch the players can you? I'm still explaining it to mrs deadly and the police… 🙂

Football and domestic violence – BBC Law in Action

"But a closer look at the evidence casts doubt on whether there really is such a link and traces the idea that there is back to an urban myth from the United States"

Have you seen how much beer gets swilled at rugby and cricket matches? Masses. More than that, in fact.

It's not about the booze.

Absolutely old chap, it's a class thing, what? The plebs just can't handle the pop. Read the link, it's not drinking at the game that's the issue, it's about a rise in domestic violence due to the increased general consumption of alcohol during world cup matches at home and in pubs. It's not about football violence, it's about dysfunctional people beating up their spouses.

But don't let that stop you having a pop at football eh. And it most likely is all about the booze because it's a powerful depressant and mood disinhibitor, so you end up with very dark, angry people who lose control easily.

Obviously if people watched rugger and cricket it wouldn't happen because most of them would fall asleep. Ditto the Tour, golf and most tennis 😉

The South African authorities have made anti-rape devices available for free while the world cup is on so it's clear there's a link there.

Now come on football fans, you're either rapists or wife beaters, you can't have it both ways you know.

Now come on football fans, you're either rapists or wife beaters, you can't have it both ways you know

I'm currently undecided. Do I have to be one of those? Can't I be a mindless vandal instead, or beat up some foreigners?
I watched the football quite impassively the other day. I feel like I'm missing out on the whole experience.
I blame my son. I used to take him to home matches at O.T. but I guess he was cramping my style. All I wanted to be doing was scrapping with the coppers in the Stretford End.

http://innertemplelibrary.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/football-and-domestic-violence-bbc-law-in-action/

"But a closer look at the evidence casts doubt on whether there really is such a link and traces the idea that there is back to an urban myth from the United States"
Pipped at the post – the actual Law in Action podcast is well worth listening to – although in fact the journalist who does the report (not Rosenberg) is very fast and loose with the facts himself. For instance, it's not that the idea is an urban myth, it's just that the suggestion that there is concrete and fulsome data to prove it is untrue. There are various baskets of data that do show a relationship but they're not necessarily substantial enough for much certainty.

There was a comment in the podcast that was not given much attention but it was about domestic violence policing really being about homicide prevention – it's a concept well worth thinking about.

Staffordshire Police said 43 reported incidents out of a population of more than 1m people was 50% higher than for a typical Saturday night, but also included reports of domestic incidents where no crimes had been committed

from the OP's link it would seem they are combining statistics to make it sound worse than it is.

I think supermarkets help fuel this – I mean 3 cases of wifebeater, sorry Stella for £18, I mean works out a 50p a can FFS!!!

Wish they'd do the offer for ale, not this insipid chemical lager sh**e!!

No-one hits their wife because they think it's a fun thing to do. They do it because they get worked up and angry (and because they're drinking, usually) and because they lack self-control and are asshats.

I can't really identify with people who get worked up over the football, but it clearly does seem to work people up in a way that bike racing, athletics, cricket, Desperate Housewives or even Avi Shlaim don't. Ho hum.

if you're a cock and you watch football you hit people because you're a cock, not because you watch football. football just seems to attract more cocks

It's the "violent computer games" argument all over again. Someone plays Grand Theft Auto and then goes out and offs someone with a shotgun, it's not because he's been playing GTA, it's because he's 'kin wrong in the head.

As much as I dislike football, I think the same applies. If you slap your wife about, it's not because you watch football, it's because you're a bloody thug who can't control his drinking and / or emotions.

Proof, I've played GTA and never killed anyone. I know plenty of football fans who don't beat up their wives. (Actually, I know a disproportionate number who are single, but that's another matter…)

No-one hits their wife because they think it's a fun thing to do.

Sadly, I doubt that's completely true.

It's the "violent computer games" argument all over again.

No, it's not.

Where does it say its wife beating?

Ever tried living with a football fan? Aside from being ignored totaly for 90minutes, your then expected to have done all the housework, cooked dinner, washed up and done the laundry while they watched it. You then have to vie for attention with the mobile and laptop/facebook whilst they spend the next 2 hours pouring over the result with friends as if the world had stoped because of a game of wendyball.

I'm not even going to comment but if Lewis looses on Sunday I may do some bitch-slappin'! 😯

there's no need to call lewis a bitch, Houns 🙂

No, it's not.

Care to expand on that?

OH is in the law and order business … apparently not an urban myth. As some others have said here it's the increased alcohol consumption + heightened emotions + tournament mentality = significant increase in violence towards nearest and dearest!

Another reason not to like football as far as I am concerned, although I'd still like England to win.

OH is in the law and order business … apparently not an urban myth

The Rozenberg programme was based around questioning whether the Association of Chief Police Officers guidance on the subject had any validity or basis in evidence. The ACPO rep on the programme was unable to support the guidance with any facts.

I'm not sure if there are official stats in this country, but apparently the increase is very obvious around tournaments specifically. Not scientific proof, I realise (and I say this as someone who uses stats for work), but lots of anecdotal evidence apparently, which is worth investigating. It's going to depend on a lot of things, I'm sure … time of day, day of the week, how close it it to pay day, area, etc, etc – it would be interesting to see real figures, though. Perhaps I should offer to run some analyses …

There's a well-established correlation between increased hearties (the cardiovascular events, not the pirates) and major footie matches, especially involving penaty shoot-outs I think

I imagine there might well be one with violence in general, possibly smaller than sonme other events though

For CFH:
seems cocks will be cocks, regardless of chosen sport

"… assaults in Cardiff between 1 May 1995 and 30 April 2000. … Violence was clustered predominantly on Saturdays and Sundays, New Year and rugby international days…"