Sir Clive put in place the environment and systems to allow the players to do what they did. This is his strength - running elite sport - rather than being the perfect tracksuit man. Having great players playing for him is something you could level at every coach of great teams down the years, regardless of the sport.
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Martin Johnson quits
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Posted 6 months ago #
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Says he won't do the job nles Michaela helps out "allegedly"
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As a Welshman i could just luaugh and poke fun, but i actually feel sorry for him, yes he made a few mistakes but he was sort of shoehorned into the role.
as above he may very well be remembered for all the wrong reasons
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I feel a bit sorry for Johnson really.
He was persuaded to take on the job for which he clearly did not have the experience or skills and he has tried hard.
however he has made serious mistakes such as not imposing decent discipline on the team in NZ and some of his selection has been rather conservative.however he is a fundamentally decent chap and i wish him well.
I think the RFU will find it very a hard to recruit a good coach right now
Scarily enough I agree with all of the above. Certainly it was the discipline for me that was a major problem. I mean, FFS, out on the lash after the first win of the group stages. Although after the revelations yesterday it would seem that the piss up was sanctioned by the RFU!!!
Johnson was a fine player and an inspirational captain. He will probably make a good coach. He is not a manager.
Posted 6 months ago # -
Full story up now
"I have a choice at the moment. If I hadn't made that decision someone may have made it for me."
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He should never have taken the job, just tarnished his reputation as one of the best players of all time.
Rob Andrew is a prize c&%t
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What TeeJ said (rather than O'Flashearty's glee at anything that goes wrong in his home RFU).
I wish him well. A fundamentally decent guy that captained many a hammering of the rest of our sides. I think everyone feared it was too soon. It was.
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Edwards in todays guardian says he was never asked.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/nov/15/why-not-england-shaun-edwards
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Rob Andrew is a prize c&%t
This is indeed true. And he should be resigning with him.
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Darcy, IIRC, England is your home RFU as well.
Why they never even asked Edwards is beyond belief, if you ask me! Even as an assistant, with an eye to the big job later on. Madness.
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I'd sooner Mallinder than Edwards.
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In the interview with Rob "teflon" Andrew he said he would not be resigning, basically very little to do with him how the England Team play, he has responsibilities to the whole English Rugby setup.
My Plastic Taff side is very pleased with Edwards at Wales my English side wonders why the RFU didn't snap him up... can't decide if emotionally I win or lose with the outcome
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Rob andrew should be dragged through a field of shite. Problem is the weaselly Teflon shite would come out clean
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am i alone in thinking that, if Dallaglio had not tried to show off to that reporter, then Mr Johnson would never have been the england captain, or coach?
and i am glad he is going, he is not a coach.
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Quite possibly, Ton, but I don't think Woodward would have lasted as long and having captained the Lions, it would have been difficult for a new coach to ignore Johnson's claims on the captaincy. In my view one of the main reasons England were successful under Woodward/Johnson was there was a tension between Woodward's wacky ideas and Johnson's pragmatism, which allowed the team to progress. Dallagio was a big Woodward fan and wouldn't have stopped his more stupid ideas whihc Johnson did.
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I feel sorry for him, he was put in the position with hardly any experience then gets flamed when things go wrong.
As for Andrews, should have been kicked out ages ago.
Posted 6 months ago # -
Well that's Mallet out. I understand that he won't work for Andrew, and I don't blame him at all.
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My Plastic Taff side is very pleased with Edwards at Wales my English side wonders why the RFU didn't snap him up... can't decide if emotionally I win or lose with the outcome
Edwards has always been quite vocal about the RFU, with his league background he has said that he always felt more affinity to the game in Wales and its working class roots.
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I have already written to the RFU to express my disgust that they have accepted Martin Johnsons’ resignation and said in my opinion he should have the position for life.
If they feel they can’t go back on their decision then HRH MT should be strongly considered as a replacement; I accept the rugby might be poor but the parties will be fantastic.
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'Next, little Megan Lewis-Jones will recite her little poem about where she thinks the RFU are going wrong."
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'It's all part of the joys of being one of the STW massive. We all think we can sing and coach.'
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