Euro, find me one example of cavendish whinging and blaming others when he hasn't won.
Also,
Look at all the roadies getting uptight
Look at all the roadies getting uptight. It's ok to admit that road cycling is for fit but fairly skill-less people. Just like dodgeball is for people with two left feet or badminton is like tennis for people with bad reactions.
Except that road riding down an alpine pass at 60mph or in a bunch sprint does require a fair amount of skill, not mention the tactics required for a long day in the saddle.
Pretty sure that quick feet are handy for dodgeball, and reactions are incredibly useful in badminton when the shuttlecock is coming towards you from a smash. 
Euro, find me one example of cavendish whinging and blaming others when he hasn't won.
Umm... oops!
Carl Fogarty is another example of a superb competitor but an almighty arse to boot. Often nominated for SPOTY but with absolutely no chance of winning (even though he was multiple world champ and the Brands Hatch WSB weekend was the UK's biggest sporting event). Usually beaten by some no-hope tennis 'star' with much less silverware but better media training.There are real sportsmen/women who take defeat graciously (on the outside at least) and don't whinge or make excuses when they loose.
Most don't usually make excuses for not winning but they are very obviously upset about not winning. Personally I prefer seeing the emotion that is displayed when they don't come up to expectations rather than a bland media clone hiding what they really feel, it shows how much it means to them and their deturmination to win. I mean who would you rather have representing you: someone who doesnt seam to change their attude when wining or loosing, or someone overcome by the emotion of winning when they do and gets angry with themselves for falling short?
Iain
Iain, that video is Cav getting upset with HIMSELF. Not others, not his teammates. The guy had a really rocky start to 2010, plagued by illness, off form, the usual hoard of media doubters were starting to gather (even in the cycling press). You know how it works - one minute they're the greatest sportsman around, next when they fail to live up to expectations - kick them while they're down.
Cav was under immense pressure, he's a bit of a volatile sort occasionally and he let it show.
He's actually pretty shy, down to earth. Nice guy but, like all top sportspeople, extremely passionate about what he does and very aware of his potential. It's not arrogance, it's extreme confidence. He's actually tempered it down a lot recently as well - notice how he always praises his teammates and the support staff on the team after a win.
Wasn't that hissy fit more to do with letting his teams mates down rather that him losing it for personal achievement? I believe he won the next strint finish resulting in him crying on the podium.
warton - MemberEuro, find me one example of cavendish whinging and blaming others when he hasn't won.
No need now (although Iain's example wasn't the one that sprang to mind). I never mentioned 'blaming others' and i'm not arguing - simply stating my opinion. Finally, Getting uptight is hardly an insult. Maybe your cycling shorts are a little too tight?
crazy-legs - Member
The guy had a really rocky start to 2010, plagued by illness, off form, the usual hoard of media doubters
It's blindingly obvious from that statement that you're making excuses for him and have no f***ing clue what really happened.
I have ridden road bikes. I've also rode shopping bikes, mtb, bmx, even a bloody unicycle and IN MY OPINION riding on the road requires less skill than them all (except shopping bikes - unless the load is uneven - then it's a tough call).
Top trolling from Euro!
Euro, have you ever ridden a road bike in a group of 50 odd people all fighting tooth and nail for position at speeds of 25 mph+? If not then you don't know the levels of skill needed, If you have then fairplay to you!
I agree with crikey though, top trolling!
He's got a face like a spoilt toddler.
crikey - MemberTop trolling from Euro!
Rumbled.
Apologies, very slow day at work today. No harm done. 
I don't doubt cavs ability nor the skill required to be a top road rider, I wish him all the best of luck. My point was that he was up against people who are the best in the world at their sport. Cav isn't. I know his admirers won't like this but it is true.
I read Iain's post to be PRO Cav when he wrote the paragraph
"Personally I prefer seeing the emotion that is displayed when they don't come up to expectations...."
which is precisely why I like him so much. He is a flawed, ultimately insecure young man (hence no confidence in public speaking, which is outside his comfort zone) and the example others have picked up on of him throwing his helmet out of the bus, having a massive crisis of confidence only to find an emotional redemption on the following stage is why I enjoy watching him so much. He ALWAYS puts his success down to his team and its obvious from his immediate post-finish reaction that's not just PR blurb.
If i was that quick on a bike i wouldn't give a monkies about my public speaking
crazy-legs - Member
Iain, that video is Cav getting upset with HIMSELF. Not others, not his teammates
Munqe-chick - Member
I read Iain's post to be PRO Cav when he wrote the paragraph"Personally I prefer seeing the emotion that is displayed when they don't come up to expectations...."
Exactly Munque-chick, the video demonstraits Cav taking defeat in a less than gracious manner and being angry at himself for not delivering the goods. In my opinion this is no bad thing, such a prolific winner should be emotional when they loose. Why cover it up with some media training.
Iain
What hope is there for cycling in this country if cyclists can't support the best their country has to offer?
Some right fools posting on this thread........
Waderider - Member
What hope is there for cycling in this country if cyclists can't support the best their country has to offer?Some right fools posting on this thread........
TBH, I really don't see the connection between what I do on two wheels and a what a highly-paid athlete does, but then I only cycle a bike a few times a week and I'm obviously not "a cyclist".
...this thread is amazing. Cav is the best road sprinter in the peleton. Even if you hate the guy...you've got accept that.
Just watch him reel in Haussler in MSR 2009, watch his champs elysee sprint this year.
Try mixing it properly in a road race sprint or a crit, not getting in peoples way but spinting at 35 mph whilst lookig for gaps/banging elbows and you will realise, even at chipper level, its ridiculously hard.
Lets face it, if he wins Worlds next year (and he's one of the favouritesas its flat (ish)) or the Olympic RR in 2012, he still wont win SPOTY......but its a pile of shit any way. Sure cav wont be listing it above his numerous TDF wins as a highlight of his career.
Poor Troll Euro.
TBH, I really don't see the connection between what I do on two wheels and a what a highly-paid athlete does, but then I only cycle a bike a few times a week and I'm obviously not "a cyclist".
Tsssk, not quite, you're just a lesser cyclist.
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