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  • Last Night's Panorama
  • jivehoneyjive
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    Britain’s Secret Terror Deals

    Interesting timing just after Prince Charles’ visit

    So many questions come to mind…

    Do MI5 encourage and protect murderers?

    Are there similar things still going on involving MI5/6 in other parts of the world?

    ernie_lynch
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    Interesting timing just after Prince Charles’ visit

    It proves that the BBC aren’t part of the MI5/Prince Charles/Jimmy Savile/IRA conspricy ?

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    It never occurred to me that this wouldn’t be true.

    chipster
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    scotroutes – Member
    It never occurred to me that this wouldn’t be true.

    That^

    jivehoneyjive
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    It proves that the BBC aren’t part of the MI5/Prince Charles/Jimmy Savile/IRA conspricy ?

    To be fair to BBC Northern Ireland, they were the 1st to shine light into the murky corners of Kincora:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-29516208

    slowoldman
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    I thought covert operations were all about infiltration.

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Presumably if there is going to be a witch hunt regarding all the terrible stuff done by loyalists and government agents in the Troubles, then we’ll have to give prominent nationalists a close look as well?

    It was always messy, wars always are, anyone thinking otherwise is a naive fool.

    jambalaya
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    It was always messy, wars always are, anyone thinking otherwise is a naive fool.

    This.

    I watched the programme, to be honest only partially for the reasons MoreCash gave. I didn’t think there was anything particularly startling.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    It proves that the BBC aren’t part of the MI5/Prince Charles/Jimmy Savile/IRA conspricy

    Jimmy Saville and Prince Charles were in the IRA? News to me….

    ernie_lynch
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    It was always messy, wars always are, anyone thinking otherwise is a naive fool.

    Interesting remark. Armed nationalist organisations always referred to the Troubles as a “war”. UK governments always steadfastly refused to see it as such, dismissing it as nothing more than criminal activity by terrorists, hence for example the Maze Prison hunger strikes.

    It now seems that the Troubles are indeed widely seen by people both sides of the debate as having been a war.

    Presumably this made British soldiers, for example, perfectly legitimate targets ?

    (For the record …….. personally while hugely sympathetic to the nationalist cause I could not support the armed struggle. While I fully accept that armed insurrection can in extreme circumstances where all other political avenues have been fully exhausted be totally justified, the existing conditions in NI did not justify it imo. Besides even if the existing conditions did justify it the violence went far beyond legitimate military targets.)

    jambalaya
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    I prefer conflict as a description. The problem with calling it a war is you have to release prisoners at the end of it.

    ernie_lynch
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    How about referring to as a “war on terror” and any prisoners as “unlawful combatants” ? Seems to work for US governments.

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