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  • Language Pedants – Off and From
  • IHN
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    When should each be used?

    And we shall ignore the use of the heinous phrase ‘off of’, for which the death penalty will apply when I am king of the world.

    trailmonkey
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    And we shall ignore the use of the heinous phrase ‘off of’, for which the death penalty will apply

    +1

    Gary_M
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    I was off my head last night.

    I come from Scotland.

    There, done 😉

    PeterPoddy
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    Get OFF your high horse, and get a sense of perspective FROM somewhere, please.

    8)

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    horse, and

    Spot the schoolboy error.

    aP
    Free Member

    ‘off of’ is actually old English not Murcan.

    IHN
    Full Member

    Should I climb down from, or climb down off, my high horse?

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    from, or

    and another one.

    PeterPoddy
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    I would climb down from it, after getting off the saddle, if I were you.

    simonfbarnes
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    Hey, you, get off of my world! (apologies to Mich Jagger)

    IHN
    Full Member

    from, or

    and another one.

    You’re not having that, not in the context of how it was used.

    SST
    Free Member

    This thread is funi. Peeps r-guing ova how u say this or that.

    mrmichaelwright
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    dis thrd is lol peeps r goin ova ow u say dis or dat

    Gary_M
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    **** off, you’re not from round ‘ere.

    SST
    Free Member

    respect MrWright man!

    mrmichaelwright
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    8) one likes to consider oneself down with the kids

    SST
    Free Member

    quite so sir.

    retro83
    Free Member

    heinous phrase ‘off of’

    I want to kill Scott Mills for putting this phrase in my head

    ourkidsam
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    Her off Eastenders or her from Eastenders?

    Nick
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    wwaswas – Member

    horse, and

    Spot the schoolboy error.

    Not an error at all but a difference of stylistic opinion, sometimes it’s desirable to add a serial comma in before ‘and’, particularly if you are trying to add emphasis or alter the rhythm of the text.

    deadlydarcy
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    I caught crabs from her after getting off with her went to far!

    AndyP
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    I caught crabs from her after getting off with her went to far!

    ahem…

    deadlydarcy
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    Oh my word, my mind wasn’t on the job and didn’t press for extra “o”! LOL @ me!

    ourmaninthenorth
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    Oh my word, my mind wasn’t on the job and didn’t press for extra “o”! LOL @ me!

    Never mind that, DD. What about the more serious crime of grammar pedantry without punctuation pedantry?

    I caught crabs from her after getting off with her went to far!

    Are you tring to say: “I caught crabs from her, having got off with her and going too far”?

    deadlydarcy
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    Jesus wept, I think the nature of my post wasn’t really pedantic in the slightest. If, however, I wanted to be verbose, I would choose your structure…of course 😆

    ourmaninthenorth
    Full Member

    Sorry, DD. All of my post was meant to be qualified with one of these: 😀 , tempered with a bit of this: 😉 , and generally trying to avoid this: 😳

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    😛

    coffeeking
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    Not an error at all but a difference of stylistic opinion, sometimes it’s desirable to add a serial comma in before ‘and’, particularly if you are trying to add emphasis or alter the rhythm of the text.

    Not according to every English teacher/lecturer I’ve ever known.

    oldgrump08
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    One could have (not ‘of’) used a hyphen, could one not, in place of the comma?
    Thus ‘- and’.

    Get my drift?

    Nick
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    Not according to every English teacher/lecturer I’ve ever known.

    The Oxford Style Manual, 2002: “The presence or lack of a comma before and or or … has become the subject of much spirited debate. For a century it has been part of OUP style …, to the extent that the convention has come to be called the ‘Oxford comma’. But it is commonly used by many other publishers here and abroad, and forms a routine part of style in US and Canadian English” (p. 121).

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